Hi Ralph
From Gokce and Ecmel’s part: There is no signed contact
with the venue. And we always had informal relation with ArtofMan team who holds
all the other related information. However I do appreciate your offer with
Eventbrite let us see the interested people and find out the number. I should
add that I have a very heavy administrative job beside my classes and
definitely need either self orginizing body or professional support to
continue.
Regards,
Gokce
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Some questions of discovery to see whether it is possible for
the 5th Art of Management Conference to proceed.
Who and where are all the conference
information/registration/material/papers/applications/correspondence/emails
held currently?
What state is the material in?
Is it on-line?
Can it be released immediately and unencumbered to a third
party?
What delegate numbers are committed and deposited?
Have there been any payments made?
Where is the cash held?
Can that be transferred into an independent third party bank
account trust fund?
Is there an up-to-date conference revenue and expenditure
budget?
Who holds it and are they happy to pass it over to a third party
unencumbered and with a statement to the affect they are a true and accurate
indication of the current state of affairs?
Are there signed contracts with the venue?
Who holds them?
What is the venue’s current expectation regarding deposit and
confirmation?
Do the official organisers as listed Ian, Ceri, Gocke and Elmel
have the right to allow the conference to proceed with the name under which it
has been advertised, free of any potential litigation from any third party
whatsoever?
I have set up a dummy 5th Art of Management web site
at http://aom.eventbrite.com/
Can I ask all AACORNERS who are currently committed or who would
definitely attend if the conference proceeded, to complete the dummy conference
registration form so we can have a fair indication of numbers to determine the
financial viability of proceeding. This in no way means you are committed to
attend. Just trying to sketch out a financial scenario.
If the AACORN membership support is strong and the conference AS
PLANNED is able to proceed then time is of the essence from an organising
perspective. On the other hand, if the community is able to act quickly there
is still time to promote and communicate and make this happen, the only proviso
being the event budgets stack up.
On the other hand, if the AACORN membership thinks this is too
aggressive on my part, I am happy to step aside.
Kind regards,
Ralph
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Good morning everyone. Thanks for this Ralph, and for Paul’s
Montreal offer as well. Lots of generosity in the air! To see whether this
is feasible from the Istanbul side, perhaps you (Ralph) and Gokse should get in
touch. From what you’re saying, it sounds like the venue setup is the
critical point and she might know more about what’s happening on that
end. I guess the other ‘must do’ is to get an Aacorn conference
committee together. From what we’ve seen from organizing the EGOS
conference, having a good professional event organizer makes all the
difference. We have a wonderful agency working for us here in Lisbon, and it’s
clear that having lots of experience is critical (and that you, Ralph, have
it!).
Ian, from what you wrote before, it seems like it could be
possible to rebrand the conference…a “considered regrouping”
as Steve Linstead said. It appears that the biggest glitch has been trying to
legally and financially transfer the conference from Essex and that if you
wanted to re-title it as an Aacorn or some other conference name, it could go
ahead. And if you still have energy for running it, maybe teaming up with Ralph
and a few others could be a way to go. Granted, as Steve Taylor points out, the
memberships aren’t the same, but perhaps it could still work. And I can
also understand if you simply feel too burned out to continue just now.
It’s been a lot to deal with in a short time. D
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:56 AM
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Hey folks,
I'll echo your elegant solution. In fact, let me offer a 'crazy
idea' ... why not go one step further ... there's already some foundation laid
for Istanbul ... can't we simply 'reappropriate' the conference and proceed?
Having founded and run an event company for 14 years, let me
offer this.
I can have an event management and conference booking site up
and running that will accept payment, schedule events, run the event
financially and operational for a cost per head in 24 hours. The cost per head
goes to the on-line software operator, not to me so it would be relatively inexpensive
around 3%. I am happy to contribute my time to get this happening.
All I would need is an ACCORN conference committee to guide me
that is empowered to make decisions on the communities behalf around papers and
schedules and a confirmed venue and the rest we can do on-line globally
relatively simply.
The confirmed venue with catering arrangements is the only
tricky part with financial risk. Most venue operators will want confirmed numbers
within 3 months from the commence date of the conference and a 10% holding
deposit immediately unless a university venue operation is prepared to be
flexible.
You can usually overcome this with a deposit trust fund. All
payments can be placed in a trust fund ie in PayPal (although they are
expensive or something similar) until the conference viability is confirmed
with a refund clause. The venue can sometimes be persuaded to hold out
for the deposit until almost a month out by which time we should be able to
confirm numbers and schedules pretty well.
Accommodation options can be added to the site with a direct
click through to the hotels or whatever options there might be so attendees can
arrange their own accommodation..
Is this of any help?
Kind regards,
Ralph
Ralph Kerle
Executive Chairman
The Creative Leadership Forum
www.thecreativeleadershipforum.com
+61 29403 5327 m 0412 559 603
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