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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Margaret, The theological discourse associating the font with Ecclesia's womb has a long tradition stemming from the post-Constantinian period, Augustine, being one, as well as earlier theologians. In fact, this idea continues to be developed through the centuries from different perspectives in theology and the ornamentation of baptismal fonts. You might find these articles of interest. The first discusses how this idea is interpreted in the 12th century and the last one by Robin Jensen, provides you with the early Christian sources: "Illicit Sex and Alcahuetas in Medieval Castile: The Pictorial Program on the Rebanal de Las Llantas Baptismal Font" pp 97-120. LA CORONICA:A JOURNAL OF MEDIEVAL HISPANIC LANGUAGES, LITERATURES AND CULTURES, vol.38:1 "FOVEA PECCATI ET UTERUS ECCLESIAE: The Symbiotic Nature of Female Sexuality on Medieval Baptismal Fonts" in the series Series: Bible in the Modern World, 27. in the new book, volume II, FROM THE MARGINS 2: WOMEN OF THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THEIR AFTERLIVES, ed. Christine E. Joynes and Christopher C. Rowland (Sheffield Phoenix Press, 2009) Jensen, Robin Margaret. "Living Water: Images, Settings, and Symbols of Early Christian Baptism in the West." Diss. Columbia University, 1991. “Mater Ecclesia and Fons Aeterna: The Church and Her Womb in Ancient Christianity,” for The Feminist Companion to Patristic Literature, ed. Amy-Jill Levine (Cleveland: Pilgrim Press, 2008), 137-55 cheers, Harriet. ------- Dr. H. Sonne de Torrens Rm. 3130, 905-569-4610 Centre of Visual and Media Communications Institute of Communications and Culture University of Toronto Mississauga 3359 Mississauga Road North Mississauga, Ontario L5L 1C6, Canada. URL Visual Resource Library: http://www.utm.utoronto.ca/~utmvrl/ URL Baptisteria Sacra Index: http://www.library.utoronto.ca/bsi/ ________________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cormack, Margaret Jean [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:19 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [M-R] baptism imagery medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Greetings all, I was recently going over notes for a lecture on the early church, where I had a reference to baptism as representing the womb of the Curch, which the Holy Spirit had made fruitful. All well and good, but I ALSO recall references to baptism as a process of entering the grave and being reborn. Does anyone have any insight into whether these models existed simultaneously (if not, what would the approximate dates be? My 'womb' reference appears to be post-Constantine - is that relevant?) Any bibliography on the subject would also be appreciated. Meg ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html