This really opens up a wider discussion.
At what point does "open for inspection" turn into an invasion of privacy? Are there any guidelines?
For example, I would love to inspect the electoral roll remotely instead of having to visit a local library or council office. I had to issue a summons against someone for a large sum of money and needed to validate the address for service. How is such a remote inspection judged to be appropriate or inappropriate?
I do not live where I own some property. I've just moved into a house where my tenant will have known to object or not to a next door planning application, but I , as owner, and who would have asked for conditions, didn't even know about the application. I would love to be able to inspect planning applications and objections remotely. I can currently find applications in some (all) planning areas, but I can't find objections.
On 23 Feb 2010, at 11:50, Baines, Jonathan wrote:
> Yes, I think we are!
>
> Objections to planning applications are not newspaper published: they are (traditionally) merely put on the planning register, to be available for public inspection (but nowadays often scanned and published via an authority's planning portal).
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> We may be at cross purposes. The electoral roll is not "newspaper published" is it? That is what I mean by "print media"
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> On 23 Feb 2010, at 11:41, Baines, Jonathan wrote:
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>> I can't agree there. The electoral register is published as print media, and made available for public inspection, but I wouldn't want it published on the web!
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>> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
>> Sent: 23 February 2010 11:37
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>> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Planning objections and personal data
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>> I think the web publishing is a difficult area. If it is normal (required?) to publish in print media then web publishing seems to me to be acceptable. If not then not.
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>> I am unfamiliar with the planning process and the laws that govern it, so I am simply applying logic.
>>
>> On 23 Feb 2010, at 11:29, Baines, Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> This is true, and I think even a section 10 notice would not be effective, given that s10(1) is qualified by 10(2)(a) which, by virtue of reference to the Schedule 2 conditions, provides that if the controller is under a legal obligation to process the data then the processing can continue.
>>>
>>> But I do feel that the fact that the planning register is a public record does not (necessarily) authorise a controller to process data further by publishing it on the web.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
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>>> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
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>>> Subject: [data-protection] Planning objections and personal data
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>>> For a long while I have wanted to known the answer to this.
>>>
>>> When one objects to a planning application that objection, in full, is a matter of public record. I'm sure I will be corrected if that is not the case.
>>>
>>> Assuming I'm correct, surely one cannot make a planning objection and ask for one's personal details to be withheld. After all the address is usually highly relevant in the planning objection process. And the address leads directly to the name, also a matter of public record.
>>>
>>> If one cannot make an objection and successfully ask for one's details to be withheld, then how can one have them removed later?
>>>
>>> On 23 Feb 2010, at 10:59, Bradshaw, Phillip wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another thing to consider is whether you think the original publishing
>>>> breached DP principles.
>>>>
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