Hi Carr
We have been discussing this very issue this week and had also
come across the questions you try to answer on your attachment. May I ask if
you have any legal weight behind them?
Kind regards
Mary
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Bullying in the workplace.
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2010/1/27 Naylor, Sharon [HMPS] <[log in to unmask]>
Often get asked if someone is "fit" to attend meetings,
interviews etc in relation to these kind of issues, especially if there are
disciplinary issues. Unions try to push the fact that if they are in receipt of
a sicknote then that negates all need for the individual to comply
with process.
I have seen it somewhere that there are only 3 questions that need
to be answered that basically say can the person understand whats going on, can
they follow the proceedings etc. (I`m sure someone can fill in the gaps)
I think that there has been the tendency to "medicalise"
peoples understandable DIStress they experience on dealing with unpleasant
situations.
Someone once said to me - the only way over it is through it,
a similar analogy is whats better - ripping the plaster off quickly or slowly.
Resolution of precipitating factors is usually the best solution for reactive
states/stress, this may include engaging with formal processes
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Sent: 27 January 2010 14:10
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Bullying in the
workplace.
Hi
I agree with Sharon and use similar phrases. Also try to be
very clear of your role .. you are not a mediator or a "protector"
from management action. If there is just distress (fully functioning at home
with no symptoms but gets angry/upset when topic is raised) I make it clear
there is no medical illness. If there are clinical symptoms I advise on health
management as normal, give a timeframe for expected improvement in symptoms and
then usually say that even if symptoms resolve/stabilise on purely medical
grounds enough to allow return to work the perceived work issues are likely to
remain a barrier pending management action to the satisfaction of the employee
and that this is not a medical issue.
Be wary of saying someone is
unfit for a management process interview.. acknowledge it may be distressing
but the process usually allows for this - delaying it only makes it more
difficult. I only advise unfit if distress would be functionally overwhelming
(rare and I give a time limit) or if there are issues with cognitive
understanding eg.could not understand process or instruct someone to act on
their own behalf (even rarer).
2010/1/27 Jane Gould <[log in to unmask]>
|
Hello I am currently working in the NHS. I see many cases of
either alleged bullying or cases of stress due to "issues" with
another staff member. I know this is primarily a management issue and yes,
there is a bullying policy however outcomes do not feel reasonable and I
would like to ask how other OHA,s deal with the matter Thanks Jane |
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