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you're welcome Work number is 053 948 3765 2010/1/26 Trish Hall <[log in to unmask]> > Thanks a million for your thoughts...I will contact you off line Carr. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:14:10 +0000 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/sick_leave > > have a look at this Trish > > 2010/1/26 Carr Barnes <[log in to unmask]> > > Hi Trish > > Things to take into account. > > - There is no NHS system so you have to pay to see the GP, for > medicines etc at significant cost unless you have private health insurance > to claim it back on. > - secondary treatments like counselling and physiotherapy are on a self > -referral basis usually again at the cost to the individual. > - The culture is still very "sick role" orientated and advice to see > another practitioner e.g. physio is not routinely given. Medication is > prescribed first! > - Inpatient admission for depression is common! > - You can go to any GP you want so if your GP won't sign you off > then the individual can take his business elsewhere (and does frequently!) > - Most employer's liability policies are tied into GP certification > making "fit notes" in the worst sense a reality. > - Occupational Health is not recognised and most GPs are not au fait > with it. Where it does exist it is usually a GP who does OH out of his > surgery. In one place I worked he wanted to be both GP and "company doctor" > to employees and i had to make him choose one role or the other. > - The GP will rarely speak to you. We tried to leaflet, invite to site > etc with minimal success. > - The Access to Medical Reports Act does not apply over here. > - Industrial/employment law is very different and only recognises the > GP. > > Obviously there are fantastic GPs out there trying to be pro-active in a > very reactive system but you have to think of OH as being 20 years behind > the UK over here. > > Carr > 2010/1/26 Trish Hall <[log in to unmask]> > > I am currently practicing in S Ireland and am having difficulties with the > amount of sickness absence granted by GP's. It seems that sick certs are > issued for every minor ailment. > I have suggested to HR that either we make a leaflet to send to the > surgeries, or invite the GP's into our place of work and showing them whats > on offer by way of light/restricted/alternate duties etc may help. I am > also considering sending a type of "fit note" - happy to share this - that > will need to be completed by the attending doctor if seeing one of our > employees during the working day. I suppose I am offering GP's an > alternative to defaulting to the obligatory sick cert. I have to say HR are > very sceptical!!!!!! > Therefore have any of you tried this...How did you word your > invitation...What was the response? > Am happy to share my findings if and when the event happens. I just feel > that something has to be done. > Many thanks and look forward to your thoughts > Trish > > ------------------------------ > Not got a Hotmail account? Sign-up now - Free<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/> > ******************************** Please remove this footer before > replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk > > > > > > > > > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk > > ------------------------------ > Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/> > > ******************************** Please remove this footer before > replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk > > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk