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Hi - Good ol' Richard Heinberg on Copenhagen - http://www.countercurrents.org/heinberg090110.htm It's long but excellent. "In summary, the discussions in Denmark took place in a conceptual fantasy world in which climate change is the only global crisis that matters much; in which rapid economic growth is still an option; in which fossil fuels are practically limitless; in which a western middle class staring at the prospect of penury can be persuaded voluntarily to transfer a significant portion of its rapidly evaporating wealth to other nations; in which subsistence farmers in poor nations should all aspire to become middle-class urbanites; and in which the subject of human overpopulation can barely be mentioned." Mandy M _________________ "Anyone who believes that exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist." - Kenneth Boulding