Mark,
Thanks for the free advert!
It just goes to show that anything issued by a consultant to a LA is
likely to appear on Google search results in later times (if you ever
put your name on a human health risk assessment worksheet just try
searching for yourself and you may get quite a surprise).
Needless to say, the standard caveats about copyright, reliance and site
specificity all apply in this case...
Regards,
Duncan
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From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark
Newman
Sent: 07 December 2009 10:35
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Unexploded Ordnance
Morning,
Thought you all might be interested to see some example bomb maps from
WW1 and WW2 - see attached. During the wars we down here in Dover not
only had bombing raids, but we were close enough for 'Jerry' to be
firing dirty great shells over at us too - hence the nickname hellfire
corner!
With the oft-quoted 10% failure rate, I can imagine there must be some
nasties buried somewhere. I usually advise a watching brief where
development is taking place on old industrial sites, or within Dover. I
don't really see there is much else we can do, aside from require a
magnetometer survey - these in my experience have usually been
restricted to high risk sites such as former airfields, training
barracks etc.
I would imagine ARP warden notes exist somewhere in the depths of the
museum, admittedly I haven't done a huge amount of research. I usually
become aware of a former bomb site through the planning history, where
'reinstatement of war damage' or similar is seen (fairly often in
central Dover). There are other clues too - there are quite a few places
in Dover where a block of flats appears in the middle of a row of
terraced houses (the numbers skip those destroyed) - the map attached
(Dover.jpg) shows what I mean, Villiers Court, Hyde Court, Greville
House and Selborne House were old bomb sites.
There is a UXB risk assessment online by BAE for a site at
Barrow-in-Furness which is quite an interesting read - see
http://localportal.barrowbc.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet
?ImageName=36991
The bomb Albert refers to is called a Butterfly Bomb - there is an
unpleasant story about one going off in a school here after some
children attempted to take it apart (
http://www.doverwarmemorialproject.org.uk/Information/Memories/Memories.
htm) - these things had an even higher failure rate, very similar to
today's cluster bombs.
Cheers,
Mark
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From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nik
Reynolds
Sent: 04 December 2009 09:55
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Unexploded Ordnance
Dear all,
This is a bit of an open ended correspondence and think it may benefit
many people. Having reviewed CIRIA C681, part of the preliminary risk
assessment which may be undertaken by non-UXO specialists involves a
desk based assessment for the potential of bombed areas. Being in the
North West, this appears to have been the best place to hide our
munitions works and military hardware factories, and we appear to have
been targeted a few times during the Second World War (to a lesser
extent to that of Coventry, London...). As such it is considered
prudent that consideration for UXO's will have to be taken (taking into
consideration Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 (with reference to UXO
mitigation), CDM Regulations 2007, Management of Health and Safety at
Work Regulations 1999, and the Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate
Homicide Act 2007) for many sites.
One source of information for UXO data has been stated to be the Local
Authority. This is where input from EHO's would be greatly appreciated.
What information does each Council hold regarding UXO's, former bomb
damage, access to information regarding UXO's (via local historical
societies they are in contact with or known of) or other departments
which should be consulted at the Council. From work I have done with
Councils, especially regarding former civil defence facilities, I was
surprised at the lack of information/consideration available.
Considering the new publication from CIRIA, are Council EHO offices
going to make a concerted effort to compile or even look at this
information? I acknowledge this is probably the bottom of a very big
pile of things to consider (constant tidal variations in CLEA, Part IIA,
SPOSH...), but it would be useful for consultants to know if it is worth
contacting Councils (and which department of Councils) regarding these
issues. I anticipate that more request letters for data will be
forthcoming to Councils regarding this issue.
I know Landmark produce UXO reports based on certain data, however as
with all risk assessments, the use solely of Landmark data should not be
relied upon.
Feedback from consultants on the response from different Councils would
also be useful from previous projects, as well as other useful/special
sources beyond that specified in the new CIRIA report will be handy.
I will put a screened summary of the responses back on the Jisc once a
significant number of responses have been received. Although this
subject has been taken as somewhat of a tongue in cheek attitude by many
in the past (from previous experience of trying to find data for former
bombed sites), I would appreciate sensible and useful responses.
Regards
Nik
Mr N Reynolds
BSc(Hons), MSc, CGeol, FGS, EurGeol
Senior Environmental Geologist
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