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I think there's a copy here Phil. http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/8501949/WG4_N0373_Text_of_FCD_for_ISO_IEC__19788-1_--_ITLET_--_Metadata_for_Learning_Resources_--_Part_1_Framework.pdf?func=doc.Fetch&nodeid=8501949 Also, I think its quite likely (never certain) that I will be the person who has to represent the UK consensus that comes out of this discussion on this item in argument at the next set of SC36 meetings (which is *after* we vote on its progression but even after working in this body for a few years I still get confused about processes), which I have done in the past. I think there are some counter arguments to Andy Powell's comments, some of which I don't see as completely justified (some, such as length and complexity I see as justified). For example the fact that RDF is a model not a binding is well-understood by the group working on it, but that clearly does not show well in the documentation. What this proposed standard *is* doing is attempting to provide a semantic-web-like approach which supports Dublin Core and properties that are not Dublin Core whilst at the same time providing some backwards support for LOM where that does not conflict (a tough thing to do, politically AND technically). On most issues, for the time being I'm going to sit on the fence because I want to impartially see what the views out there are as whoever fulfills that role, whether its me or not, has in my view a UK-representative function not a partial (in the sense of biased) one. I may chip in with somr technical arguments later but for now I shall attempt to just watch dispassionately. andy > Hello. > I can't find a publicly accessible copy of this version. You might be > able to get a copy through your national standards agency (we have a > copy from the British Standards Institute which we can use to pass > comments back to them), I know the Canadian national body has provided a > lot of comments on previous drafts. > > I don't know the reason for it not being openly available (if indeed > there is one). > > Phil > > Carolyn Guinchard wrote: >> Just to clarify, is there no public access to the Framework document? >> >> >> Carolyn Guinchard >> Digital Librarian >> Digital Design and Production >> Division Planning and Standards Sector >> Alberta Education >> > Cheers andy -- ______________________ Andy Heath http://www.axelafa.com