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Well, I like that last quote, even if you dont know who said it, Chris. I said 'so-called pomo' because I agree, the term has thinned out so much it really has no hold on anything any more. And yet, we forget & use it.... I think I was just responding in terms of my own responses when confronted with certain, apparently highly thought of, & certainly accepted into museums, photography that strikes me as not only flat (lacking any sense of depth, in-sight, etc) but graceless, whatever. I want something that I can return to with a sense of renewal, that I will look at again & again with, yes, pleasure. There are (art?) photographs that do that. So how 'minor' an art it can be is something I can never be sure about.... Your comments around such topics are always interesting. (& it's good to hear that 'The danger has passed. The fire in the Pilliga has been defeated.') Doug On 21-Nov-09, at 10:33 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > I do not tell my students.... I don't have a heart to say that if they > want Art, they should be ready to live when no one will ever know > them. Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest books: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 Wednesdays' http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html Good taste is as tiring as good company. Francis Picabia