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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Nina Czegledy <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Fully agree - while it seems to be out of fashion, the > list-serve remains one of the most effective platforms > for communication, the depth of critical reflection -in > my opinion - reflects more on the participants of the exchange > than the tool. > nina > > > > The announcement below is an interesting off-theme thread to consider in > the > context of Crumb. > > Would people agree that, within the network, art criticism (I assume this > includes other critical discourses) is confined mainly to blogs? > > I find this a strange claim. I?ve seen various media come and go, as well > as > various styles of critical discourse. In that time some media have been > more > successful than others in facilitating both the making of discourse and its > dissemination. With discursive media the processes of making and > disseminating are the same. Therefore it makes sense that a medium that > conflates making and disseminating would be an ideal platform for critical > debate. > > One of the most effective and affecting of such media I have ever come > across is the list-serve. It is true that the list-serve probably > experienced its height of efficacy in the 1990?s and early 2000?s and that > the development of newer platforms, such as blogging and twittering, have > encroached upon and taken up some of that bandwidth. However, on the whole, > my impression is that list-serves remain the most vital and popular > platforms for critical debate, especially about the media arts. > > Would other?s agree with this, or do they think blogs and other media have > displaced list-serves and other media to a greater degree? If people do > agree, do they think list-serves facilitate deeper critical reflection as > an > outcome of their interactive and discursive format or shallow and popular > debate, as is suggested below in reference to blogs? > > Best > > Simon > > > Simon Biggs > > Research Professor > edinburgh college of art > [log in to unmask] > www.eca.ac.uk > > Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments > CIRCLE research group > www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > > [log in to unmask] > www.littlepig.org.uk > AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk > > > > From: Eric Kluitenberg <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: Eric Kluitenberg <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:59:44 +0100 > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Critics Floating in the Virtual Sphere, > December 9, 14-17 hrs., De Balie, Amsterdam > > A N N O U N C E M E N T > > Critics Floating in the Virtual Sphere > > Will Art Criticism Survive the Digital Age? > > International Seminar > De Balie, Amsterdam > www.debalie.nl > > Wednesday December 9, 2009, 14.00 - 17.00 hrs (CET) > Doors open: 13.30 > > Live webcast: > wwwdebalie.nl/live > > > The digital revolution has profound effects on the status of art criticism. > With newspapers and other printed media in decline, the traditional > platform > for critical reflection on art has shrunk or shifted towards electronic > (web-based) media. At the same time the presence of art criticism on the > internet is mostly limited to the ?blog? ? a format that celebrates an > impressionistic, subjective and often populistic point of view. More > substantial forms of web-based criticism are still rare to be found. > > Broader changes in the culture could be responsible for this. In the > current > climate the voice of ?classical? criticism is associated with an > authoritative, paternalistic tradition. In the universe of web 2.0, > consumers no longer tend to accept that authority. > > Another effect of the internet revolution is that information about > artists, > artworks and exhibitions is now abundantly available online. Critics facing > the challenge of covering the ever-growing number of biennials and other > large-scale exhibitions all over the world, may feel tempted to stay at > home > and write their ?reviews? without actually visiting the exhibition they > write about. According to some reports, this critical practice is become > more and more common. > > Is there a future for serious, in-depth criticism in an internet-dominated > society? > Has the need for art criticism completely disappeared, or has it merely > changed? Does the internet offer possibilities for serious criticism beyond > the limitations of the blog? Do new media arts and net.art show us the way? > Is the interactive, social networking capacity of the internet at all used > in this context, or even understood? Is the web really replacing print or > is > this a false contradiction? > How do art critics respond to these changes and challenges? > > > Speakers: > > Georg Schöllhammer, editor in chief of Springerin and curator of the > Documenta 12 Magazines project. > http://magazines.documenta12.de/frontend/ > > Regine Debatty, writer and editor of we-make-money-not-art.com. > www.we-make-money-not-art.com/ > > Arjen Mulder, writer and media theorist. > > Jennifer Allen, art critic. > > > Moderator: > > Maria Hlavajova (Basis voor Aktuele Kunst Utrecht) > > ----- > > Wednesday December 9, 2009, 14.00 - 17.00 hrs > Doors open: 13.30 > > Admission free | Reservation recommended > > Live webcast: > www.debalie.nl/live > > ---- > > Organisation: > > AICA Netherlands - Association Internationale des Criticques d?Arts > www.aicanederland.org > > De Balie - Centre for Culture and Politics > www.debalie.nl/media > > > Supported by: > > Lectoraat Kunst en Publieke Ruimte, Gerrit Rietveld Academie, Amsterdam; > Lectoraat Kunstenaarstheorieën en de Artistieke Praktijk, Hogeschool van > Beeldende Kunsten, Muziek en Dans, Den Haag; > Lectoraat Beeldende Kunst van AKV / Sint Joost / Avans Hogeschool, Den > Bosch; > Institute of Network Cultures, Hogeschool van Amsterdam. > Metropolis M > > > Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number > SC009201 > -- Betty Martins +44 (0) 7891843701