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there is also the recent talk http://www.hsv.se/download/18.211928b51239dbb43167ffe1343/Deborah_L_Wince_Smith.pdf which posits some of the questions at Farnham recently - invited by Kathleen Rogers, who has an art and science research cluster within University of the Creative Arts, Tina Gonsalves and I debated the topic Art, Science and Beyond. I feel we also need the beyond whilst seeing the art/science interface as a good one to focus on (to give some texture to what otherwise can balloon into a kind of nothingness but everything debate). Other interfaces and intersections can then hang around this generic hub. Or other hubs. I have been like Simon keen on inter and transdisciplinary approaches but the words are losing any rigour now (if it ever was there?) cheers Bronac 2009/11/2 roger malina <[log in to unmask]> for the november topic Art, Science, and Methods > > you may be interested in this compilation of curricula > of art science courses that are currently being taught > in universities that victoria vesna and i are working on, > hoping that this will lead to to a workshop or conference > on the teaching of art-science and science-art > > Whereas there is a developing curriculum base in teaching > new media that grew out of the computer art courses in the > 1970s and 1980s, the art-science area is only just developing > in universities through a few pioneering individuals= and there > is nothing like a standard base curriculum. In many universities > it is not possible to get course accreditation for art science > classes as pointed out by pier-luigi capucci for italy > > I have asked the question whether there can be a standard > curriculum or not= in fields ranging as far as art and medecine, > art and meteorology, art and genetics, art and anthropology, > art and astronomy etc > > I have been struck by the report on The Future of Learning > Institutions in a Digital Age funded by Marcarthur Foundation > and just published by MIT Press ( available for free on line > at HASTAC)= it advocates ten principles or learning instutions > in the digital age that are surely applicable to art-science > > here is the call for art science curricula > > roger > > > > > Art-Science and Science-Art Curricula: Call for Contributions > > > > > > http://www.twine.com/twine/12hmrlnzz-260/art-science-and-science-art-curricula > > > > Leonardo Education Forum co chair Victoria Vesna and > > Leonardo Executive Editor Roger Malina are interested > > in examples of courses and curricula that are in the > > art-science field- such as courses on art and biology, art and > > mathematics, art and chemistry, art and environmental > > sciences etc. > > > > We are not collecting art and new media curricula, but the > > broad range of arts ( all forms from performing , > > sound, visual etc) connecting to all sciences, hard and > > social sciences. We are including art and new > > technologies if they are not new media ( eg nano tech). > > > > People who have taught an art-science or science art class, > > at university or secondary school level, > > in formal or informal settings are invited to contact > > roger malina, with details of their curriculum, at > > rmalina---at----alum.mit.edu > > >