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Bogdan That is helpful. I understand Samir's frustration when he says that our (EFTC's) official condemnation is not enough but, frankly, it is quite difficult to see what more the EFTC can do. We have to remember that the EFTC is not a funded organisation with huge financial resources to bring to bear on issues like this. Nor are any of the Serbian treatment centres members of the EFTC (nor have they attempted to join). In practice, the EFTC is a small umbrella federation of treatment centres operating within a therapeutic community framework with membership funding barely covering the administrative costs. However, that said, I did notice that this centre also appears to be part of a religious order. Is it possibly part of the Serbian Orthodox Church? The article does not clarify whether this is the case. If these treatment centres (including the one which the EFTC recently denounced in an international press statement) are all under the aegis of the Serbian Orthodox Church, it may be that an approach from the EFTC (possibly through senior religious individuals whose organisations are members of the EFTC) offering assistance in terms of training and development, care standards etc. might be a possible route forward. If that were to happen, then it would be important that other EFTC members became actively involved. As a membership organisation, EFTC struggles to deliver on its existing commitments and far too often, these are delivered by a small group of individuals with most of the membership being largely inactive. For those of you (most, I suspect) who are unable to read Serbian, I have provided Google translations in English, Spanish, Italian and French. These are computer-generated translations so they are fairly inadequate but should at least give you some idea of the original content. English translation: Black River: Sentenced Radosavljevic and Pavicevic Contributors spiritual rehabilitation center in Montenegro say, in Tutin, Nemanja Radosavljevic from Lazarevac and Marian Pavicevic from Belgrade, were sentenced today for raping ward and violent behavior, said District Court in Novi Pazar Radosavljevic for the crimes of rape and violent behavior was convicted on a single statutory sentence of two years and five months, and Pavićević for rape was sentenced to one year in prison. Radosavljevic and Pavićević for the rape and abuse of police in May this year, reported a former protégé from Lazarevac, but only after an open affair spiritual rehabilitation center in Montenegro say. The case of Black River was created by publishing a public viodezapisa where you can see batinjanje ward center. Former head of spiritual rehabilitation center Branislav Peranovic will, because of doubts that have behaved violently respond before the Municipal Court in Tutin. It was after the outbreak of the Black River Affair removed from that office. Spanish translation: Río Negro: Radosavljevic condenadas y Pavicevic Colaboradores espiritual centro de rehabilitación en Montenegro, por ejemplo, en Tutin, Nemanja Radosavljevic de Lazarevac y Marian Pavicevic de Belgrado, fueron sentenciados hoy por la violación de barrio y de la conducta violenta, dijo la Corte de Distrito de Novi Pazar Radosavljevic por los delitos de violación y el comportamiento violento fue condenado por una sentencia legal único de dos años y cinco meses, y Pavićević por violación fue condenado a un año de prisión. Radosavljevic y Pavićević por la violación y el abuso de la policía en mayo de este año, informó un antiguo protegido de Lazarevac, pero sólo después de una apertura espiritual centro de rehabilitación asunto en Montenegro decir. El caso de Río Negro fue creada por la publicación de un viodezapisa público donde se puede ver batinjanje centro de la sala. El ex jefe de la rehabilitación espiritual centro Branislav Peranovic voluntad, debido a las dudas que se han comportado de manera violenta responder ante el Tribunal Municipal de Tutin. Fue después del estallido del caso Río Negro retirados de esa oficina. Italian translation: Black River: condannato Radosavljevic e Pavicevic Centro di riabilitazione contributori spirituale in Montenegro dire, in Tutin, Nemanja Radosavljevic da Lazarevac e Marian Pavicevic da Belgrado, sono stati condannati oggi per aver violentato reparto e il comportamento violento, ha detto District Court di Novi Pazar Radosavljevic per i crimini di stupro e il comportamento violento è stato condannato per una sola frase di legge di due anni e cinque mesi, e Pavićević per lo stupro è stato condannato a un anno di carcere. Radosavljevic e Pavićević per lo stupro e gli abusi della polizia nel maggio di quest'anno, ha riportato un ex protetto da Lazarevac, ma solo dopo una procedura aperta vicenda spirituale centro di riabilitazione in Montenegro dire. Il caso di Black River è stato creato da pubblicare un viodezapisa pubblico dove si può vedere centro reparto batinjanje. Ex capo del centro di riabilitazione spirituale Branislav Peranovic volontà, a causa dei dubbi che si sono comportati violentemente rispondere dinanzi al Tribunale Municipale di Tutin. E 'stato dopo lo scoppio della Black River Affair rimosso da tale ufficio. French translation Black River: Radosavljevic condamnées et Pavicevic Contributeurs centre de rééducation spirituelle au Monténégro dire à Tutin, Nemanja Radosavljevic de Lazarevac et Marian Pavicevic de Belgrade, ont été condamnés pour le viol d'aujourd'hui des quartiers et des comportements violents, a déclaré le tribunal de district de Novi Pazar Radosavljevic pour les crimes de viol et de comportement violent a été condamné à une peine légal unique de deux ans et cinq mois, et Pavicevic pour viol a été condamné à un an de prison. Radosavljevic et Pavicevic pour le viol et l'abus de la police de Mai de cette année, a rapporté un ancien protégé de Lazarevac, mais seulement après avoir ouvert un centre d'affaire de la réhabilitation spirituelle au Monténégro dire. Le cas de la Rivière Noire a été créée par la publication d'un viodezapisa public où vous pouvez voir centre Ward batinjanje. Ancien chef du Centre de réadaptation spirituelle Branislav Peranovic volonté, en raison des doutes qui ont agi de façon violente répondre devant le tribunal municipal de Tutin. Ce fut après le déclenchement de l'affaire de la rivière Black retirés de ce bureau. Rowdy Yates Senior Research Fellow Scottish Addiction Studies Dept. of Applied Social Science University of Stirling Scotland T: +44 (0) 1786-467737 F: +44 (0) 1786-466299 W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4 (home) W: http://www.drugslibrary.stir.ac.uk/ (online library) ________________________________________ From: Therapeutic Communities [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of DPC - Bogdan Polajner [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 23 October 2009 12:42 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] Another story of treatment abuse in Serbia Mybe I can help regarding language problem: I speak Serbian and Croatian language very well. Mybe Samir's and my language knowledge can help if we - EFTC or/and other bodies – will start with much intensive acitvities regarding violence and other type of abuses of high treshold treatment programmes? And we should not forget this is not only Serbian problem! Bogdan Polajner, Slovenia From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pedro Moreira Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:13 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] Another story of treatment abuse in Serbia Really sorry to hear about that Samir! Is there any kind of peer-review that could be put in place? Like members from different communities visiting each other on a regular basis and assessing the quality of treatment and the ways in which it is put in place. This could be achieved, for instance, having as a part of the structure interviews with the clients. Take care, Pedro. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:22:39 -0700 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: [EFTC] Another story of treatment abuse in Serbia To: [log in to unmask] Here is the press article about two associates from treatment center "Crna Reka" in Serbia, which are convicted two and half years and one year sentences for rape and aggression of residents. http://www.pressonline.rs/page/stories/sr.html?view=story&id=83011§ionId=56 We on Balkans really need help to start talk about treatment abuse and to create environment which will not enable such behavior. Just official condemn on behalf of EFTC is not enough. Is there anybody who has some ideas what should be done in practice? Reagards, Samir Ibisevic Bosnia and Herzegovina -- The Sunday Times Scottish University of the Year 2009/2010 The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159.