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From: "Laura Jacobus" <[log in to unmask]>
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culture" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 07 October 2009 10:09
Subject: Re: [M-R] Master's degree in Medieval Studies


medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Birkbeck College, which is a college of the University of London and my home
institution would also be worth a look http://www.bbk.ac.uk/main.  We
specialise in part-time study in the evenings, which tends to be an option
for mature students who take the degree over two years while juggling
daytime jobs or commitments, but most of our degrees have a full-time, one
year pathway through them as well, which attracts younger students in a
hurry.  London is fantastically resourced.

Laura

Dr. Laura Jacobus
Senior Lecturer in History of Art
Birkbeck College, University of London

For details of my new book, 'Giotto and the Arena Chapel: art, architecture
and experience' go to
http://www.brepols.net/catalogue/index.jsp?mpk=20295&art=1369183



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Wickstrom" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: 06 October 2009 17:35
Subject: Re: [M-R] Master's degree in Medieval Studies


> Thanks, Franz, yours is  an especially helpful reply.
> John W.
>
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>> culture
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frans van Liere
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:48 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [M-R] Master's degree in Medieval Studies
>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>>
>> And perhaps I should add: while studying in England might be more 
>> expensive
>> per
>> annum, the great advantage is that these programs are just one year, 
>> rather
>> than two years long.
>>
>> Frans van Liere
>> Department of History, Calvin College
>> 1845 Knollcrest Circle SE
>> Grand Rapids, MI 49546-4402
>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> http://www.calvin.edu/academic/history/faculty/vanlieref/
>>
>> >>> Frans van Liere <[log in to unmask]> 10/6/2009 10:40 AM >>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I've advised a few students that sound exactly like yours (I won't give 
>> any
>> names, because by now, they are well on the way to finish PhDs in very
>> respectable institutions.)
>> English MA programs are an excellent way for students like these to test 
>> out
>> if they are on the right career path. It offers some international 
>> experience
>> (without the language barrier), with the level of American student loans 
>> they
>> don't compare so badly with the cost of studying in the US, and helps 
>> them
>> not
>> only acquire some good research skills, but  will help them get admitted 
>> in a
>> US PhD program. Some programs I can think of that I always recommend: 
>> York,
>> Nottingham, Bristol, Reading, Leeds. Am I overlooking any??
>> Others took this time to figure out that academic careers were just not 
>> their
>> cup of tea. That's a fine outcome, too. Better discover that when you're 
>> 25
>> than when you're 45.
>> We've had some Calvin students do MAs in England in the past few years, 
>> in
>> related fields (historical preservation, e.g.) and their experience has
>> always
>> been very positive ! (In fact, some married Englishmen and never returned
>> ...)
>>
>>
>>
>> Frans van Liere
>> Department of History, Calvin College
>> 1845 Knollcrest Circle SE
>> Grand Rapids, MI 49546-4402
>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> http://www.calvin.edu/academic/history/faculty/vanlieref/
>>
>> >>> Larry Swain <[log in to unmask]> 10/6/2009 12:53 AM >>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>>
>> Interestingly, the OP is just down the street from the MA in Medieval 
>> Studies
>> from WMU's Medieval Institute.....
>>
>> For other ideas, you might check the CARA website
>> http://acmrs.org/web_pages/online_resources/online_resources_cara.html
>>
>>
>> Larry Swain
>>
>> >  I have a senior history
>> > major concentrating on Medieval Studies who has high hopes
>> > for getting a PhD at a good university and working in our
>> > privileged profession. However, I don’t think he’s ready
>> > yet for the Ivies (he just won’t get in for another
>> > thing). His Latin is imprecise and his writing is uneven.
>> > His preliminary GRE was mediocre. But he works very hard, he
>> > speaks well, and has great determination…qualities in the
>> > long run that will serve him well. It was suggested to me
>> > that a good master’s program with a record of sending its
>> > more successful students on to the Ivies or equivalents
>> > would be a good possibility.
>> > However,
>> > looking around at various sources, I don’t see a plethora
>> > of such programs: Toronto,, Chicago’s MA in humanities
>> > seem the best of the lot. Are there others out there that
>> > are of this level with a good record of placing their
>> > students? Is there another route I might recommend to him?
>> > This is really an extraordinarily promising student, but he
>> >  needs more time and competition and experience. I would
>> > welcome any suggestions from the list.
>> > thanksJohn
>> >  WickstromKalamazoo
>> > College
>> >
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