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We have regularly taught Visual Poetry as part of our MA programme, and I have supervised a couple of MA theses on Cobbing. Robert mIEKAL aND wrote: >Ian—Yr to be lauded for taking a stab at writing about visual poetry, >I would love to read it sometime (or better yet make it accessible to >the SPIDERTANGLE mailing list, which has several hundred vispoets >listening in). > > As far as I know there are no academic magazines devoted to vispo >(tho Visible Language did a number of special issues) or for that >matter there are only a couple folks I know that teach an occasional >class in vispo. Compare that to the reception that language & post >language writing has in US universities. Part of the issue as I see >it is the the literary folks don't think it's poetry & the art folks >don't think it's art. As far as I can tell visual poetry's best >reception has been in the new media departments where it's seen as an >antecedent to interactive media arts. > >I mean after all, how many universities in the UK are teaching Cobbing? > > >~mIEKAL > > >On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:17 PM, ian davidson wrote: > >> "I completely take your point about visual poetry tho: a criminally >> marginalised area. absolutely. >> Sean" >> >> Sean and Miekal >> >> Without a glimmer of self promotion there's a whole chapter on >> visual poetry in my recent book Ideas of Space in Contemporary >> Poetry. And there have been a couple of pretty high profile >> exhibitions in london, and one in glasgow I think? >> >> There are some more specialist books about by Joanna Drucker which >> are pretty good. >> >> But I do agree, it does get marginalised, and endless primary school >> teachers getting children to write poems in the shape of a christmas >> tree doesn't help. it's nearly that time of year again. >> >> Do you want to say anything about your visual practice Sean? Or the >> visual nature of your poems? >> >> Ian >> >> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:57 +0000 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Journal of British and Irish Innovative Poetry launch >> at Birkbeck (Weds 21st October 2009) >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Hi mIEKAL // what I was trying get at was what I understood to be >> Jeff's claim that academic commentary on poetry would necessarily >> limit it. When I said it 'reflects the liveliness of the scene' I >> meant that academic interest comes about because there's a range of >> practices (outside the university) that academics are interested to >> write about, and so rather than academic writing being prescriptive, >> its hopefully a commentary on whats already happening. >> I completely take your point about visual poetry tho: a criminally >> marginalised area. absolutely. >> Sean >> >> http://abandonedbuildings.blogspot.com/ >> >> --- On Fri, 23/10/09, mIEKAL aND <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> From: mIEKAL aND <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Journal of British and Irish Innovative Poetry launch >> at Birkbeck (Weds 21st October 2009) >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Date: Friday, 23 October, 2009, 2:14 PM >> >> Sean, normally I find myself agreeing with your comments but this >> one has me scratching my head. I'll give you an example that has >> perplexed my community of practitioners seemingly forever. Visual >> Poetry has an extremely vibrant & endless interesting field of >> production, with work by hundreds of artist going back 50 years, yet >> there has been an almost complete hands off from academia, except >> for the occasional one off. Perhaps yr speaking to the specific >> scene yr a part of & I'm missing the point. >> >> ~mIEKAL >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Sean Bonney <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> Poetry is not getting 'hedged in' by academia. Academic interest >> reflects the liveliness of the scene in general. > > > > >