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Technically AIIM is a trade association, while ARMA International is a professional association. Both are to a great extent focused on North America (~20% of ARMA's 11,000 members are from Canada). both provide information for records managers with regards to 'chartership' I assume that is similar to licensing. Here in the US states are responsible for licensing professions. For example CPAs (aka chartered accountants), physicians, attorneys, professional engineers, etc are licensed to practice by their individual states. if you move from one state to another you must satisfy your new state's requirements More and more professions in the US are creating certifications and avoiding the issue of licenses (requires laws in each of the 50 states) other certifications besides the CRM are PMP (Project Management Professional), CA (Certified Archivist), CISSP (Certified Information Systems Security Professional), and the CIPP (Certified Information Privacy Professional). peterk On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Adam Pope <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Of 101 jobs available via AIIM none were outside of the US. Events are very > US focused as well. > > The existing structures, management, participants, magazine editors and so > on of RMS and SoA should adopt CILIP as the over-arching information 'guild' > or what have you that represents and provides chartership to members. > > This would be much more difficult to accomplish within AIIM - chartership > regulations are totally different in the US for instance. > > Adam Pope > 07977238873 > London 7755 2916 > www.informationhandyman.com > > > 2009/9/14 Eldin Rammell <[log in to unmask]> > >> The blogger referred to below says “If anyone can suggest a professional >> association that truly represents information professionals outside of the >> library sector I would really like to hear about them”. Well, no mention yet >> in this discussion of AIIM, an organization that claims to be “the community >> that provides education, research, and best practices to help organizations >> find, control, and optimize their information”. Surely of interest to >> records managers?? >> >> >> >> Eldin. >> >> ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto: >> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Nicola Franklin >> *Sent:* 14 September 2009 14:44 >> >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: Sector representation - first steps? >> >> >> >> While this is the logical step to consider, I think in practice it might >> be both difficult to achieve and difficult to 'sell' to members - who would >> no doubt look to the experiences of the IIS (Institute of Informatin >> Scientists) when merging with LA to become CILIP and ask themselves whether >> they wanted to go down that same route. >> >> >> >> An interesting comment on CILIP's attitude to 'the wider profession', made >> today by an ex-CILIP member, can be found by scrolling to the bottom of the >> comments on our blog post at >> http://suehill.typepad.com/shrweblog/2009/07/the-borough-market-twelve-meet-for-talks-on-professional-associations.html >> >> >> >> >> Nicola >> >> >> ************************************************************************************************* >> Nicola Franklin — Direct Line 020 7378 5458 >> Head of Recruitment >> >> Sue Hill Recruitment - view our Blog at http://suehill.typepad.com/ >> >> Sue Hill Recruitment Network - http://www.linkedin.com/e/vgh/2219369/<http://www.linkedin.com/e/vgh/2219369/eml-grp-sub/> >> >> Borough House >> 80 Borough High Street >> London SE1 1LL >> >> Tel 020 7378 7068 >> Fax 020 7378 6838 >> web http://www.suehill.com >> >> *Registered Office:* 30 City Road, London EC1Y 2AB * **Registered in >> England.* 3484222 * **VAT No.* 709 9652 93 >> >> >> **************************************************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto: >> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Adam Pope >> *Sent:* 14 September 2009 14:29 >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: Sector representation - first steps? >> >> The proposal to merge RMS and SoA into a new one that encompasses >> 'information managers' - when CILIP already touts itself as the umbrella >> organisation for information professionals - will simply drive a harder to >> heal wedge through the profession. A number of benefits to RMS and SoA >> members could be found via a merger with CILIP: >> >> - CILIP have well-entrenched special interest groups<http://www.cilip.org.uk/specialinterestgroups/bysubject>by subject; Records Managers and Archivists could easily become another if >> the CILIP exec agreed. >> - They already have recognised, rigorous chartership methodology and >> training in place. >> - The CILIP Records Managers Special Interest Group could develop an >> agreement recognizing ICRM as the official certifying body for the group. >> - Huge economy of scale savings could be made for all members - only >> one website to maintain; one integrated recruitment agency; cheaper printing >> for the Group magazines; dedicated event management; large and holistic >> reference library service; the list goes on. >> - Local as well as subject based communities >> - One mouthpiece for all information management professionals >> >> Merging SoA and RMS into CILIP is a no-brainer from a 'big picture' >> perspective. It might prove difficult for some people to consider subsuming >> their 'baby' into the broader profession however. >> >> I'd expect CILIP to be consulted to see what they can offer, and depending >> on the upshot, for it to be an option on any upcoming 'referendum'. >> >> Adam Pope >> 07977238873 >> London 7755 2916 >> www.informationhandyman.com >> For any technical queries re JISC please email [log in to unmask] any content based queries, please email >> [log in to unmask] For any technical queries re >> JISC please email [log in to unmask] For any content based queries, >> please email [log in to unmask] > > > For any technical queries re JISC please email [log in to unmask] For > any content based queries, please email > [log in to unmask] -- Peter Kurilecz CRM CA [log in to unmask] Richmond, Va Information not relevant for my reply has been deleted to reduce the electronic footprint and to save the sanity of digest subscribers For any technical queries re JISC please email [log in to unmask] For any content based queries, please email [log in to unmask]