In the late sixties the critic Jack Burnham strongly advocated and discussed the idea of art in 'real time'. In some sense he was discussing work that would prefigure the world of apparently near instantaneous networked communication that we now sometimes appear to be in, and was then just beginning to be widely available. I am intrigued by the term 'real time', which of course has a fairly widely accepted technical definition, but also an almost poetic sense of invoking something more immediate and real than we are used to with mediated experiences, and thus also perhaps impossible in the light of questions of pretension and retension or of difference and deferral immanent in all experience of temporality. Perhaps TBA is always about making time (more) real somehow Charlie Gere Head of Department Institute for Cultural Research Lancaster University Lancaster LA1 4YL UK Tel: +44 (0) 1524 594446 E-mail: [log in to unmask] http://www.lancs.ac.uk/fss/cultres/staff/gere.php -----Original Message----- From: Curating digital art - www.crumbweb.org [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Biggs Sent: 11 September 2009 16:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Another stab at thinking about the question of time Or a click? Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art [log in to unmask] www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ [log in to unmask] www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: Caroline Langill <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:35:42 -0400 To: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Another stab at thinking about the question of time Simon, your comment brings to mind T.S. Eliot...what would it sound like to clear out digital works? Wouldn't we just press the delete button? "Not with a bang, but a whimper." Caroline > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Another stab at thinking about the question of time > To: [log in to unmask] > > Books have been burned as a form of cultural clear-out. We could have a > bonfire of new media artworks. I can donate some ephemeral code to get the > pyre started. We could have a symbolic burn this November 5. > > Best > > Simon > > > Simon Biggs > Research Professor > edinburgh college of art > [log in to unmask] > www.eca.ac.uk > www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > > [log in to unmask] > www.littlepig.org.uk > AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk > > > > From: "Gere, Charlie" <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: "Gere, Charlie" <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:57:23 +0100 > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Conversation: Another stab at thinking about the question of time > Subject: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Another stab at thinking about the question of > time > > Getting away from the phenomenology of the art experience to the > ontology of the art object, I am interested in the disconnect between > the ephemerality of much contemporary art and the continued mania for > preservation that lies at the heart of the museological project and > indeed in other parts of our culture. > > I think this is interesting in relation to the increasingly unmanageable > amounts of stuff we are confronted with, and the surely futile efforts > to find ways of preserving it. It is interesting to go to conferences > where digital conservation/preservation are earnestly debated without > any discussion about whether it is either possible or even desirable to > preserve even a tiny percentage of the flood of digital material now > being produced > > I would like to think of time-based art as referring to works that > acknowledge finitude, entropy etc... > > > Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201