Hi I have made it publicly searchable and realised that I had actually set it password protected. This has been removed. Also Adium appears not be able to reconfigure a room once its created. So I have now gone for Psi. The room is now open to with Sam and Derek in there already. One using Jabber and one using googlemail. Cheers, Dug 2009/8/28 Douglas McNab <[log in to unmask]> > Hey, > > I was just messing with jabber chatrooms and it seems fairly easy to create > a chat room with a jabber account. > In fact there should be one called [log in to unmask] now. > There is no password, its persistent and it is not publicly searchable. You > can set other preferences from the menu and all you need is a jabber > account, google talk accounts seems to get a 401 message. After some > digging it looks like the sometimes work but I suspect the API changes > frequently. I am using Adium (for jabber and google talk) but any jabber > client i.e. Pidgin should work and you should be able to flick between > google talk/jabber from the client. Feel free to join and see if its of any > use? > > Cheers, > > Dug > > > > 2009/8/27 Derek Ross <[log in to unmask]> > > As part of the discussion about Security - in particular not having a >> private list to discuss security issues with UK Site admins (TB-Support is >> public) it was suggested to set up a chat room, after Jeremy left a few of >> us hung around and discussed this in the evo chat window, I've pasted the >> relevant part of the log below to get opinions from others on the TB-Support >> list. >> >> Derek >> >> >> [12:14:05] Winnie Lacesso - I would prefer EVO meetings myself not IRC >> chat... >> [12:14:12] Ewan Mac Mahon - I think it might be useful, but IIRC when it's >> come up before various sites firewall IRC pretty badly. >> [12:14:33] Stephen Burke - irc used to be banned at RAL, not sure about >> the current status >> [12:14:35] Sam Skipsey - And, indeed, other chat systems - jabber, Skype >> chat, etc. >> [12:14:51] Ewan Mac Mahon - The external logging concern goes for EVO as >> well. >> [12:15:22] Rob Fay - it's not that hard to run an irc server, and 24/7 >> live chat can be useful... if people use it >> [12:15:47] Dug McNab - it needs to be something the tier1 can use, so >> whatever is allowed there would be the way to go >> [12:16:22] Peter Love - sign up for google-wave >> [12:16:54] Rob Fay - google wave might be a solution, but not yet >> [12:17:45] Ewan Mac Mahon - I think if we;re setting up something >> ourselves I'd go for jabber rather than IRC, >> [12:18:55] Derek Ross - problems is that may only fix the problem for one >> site - would other sites be happy about using a service hosted at another >> univeristy to discuss internal security issues? >> [12:19:19] Ewan Mac Mahon - I think EVO is supposed to be able to do >> jabber-y things like presence notification etc. but I've never tried to use >> it like that. >> [12:19:36] Rob Fay - Derek, if they're not, nothing will work >> [12:19:47] Duncan Rand - well maybe a 'not for security issues' to start >> with >> [12:19:56] Sam Skipsey - Why use EVO, though, since Jabber already solves >> those problems? >> [12:20:15] Christopher Walker - I'm not familiar with jabber. How does it >> differ >> [12:20:23] Christopher Walker - from IRC >> [12:20:27] Rob Fay - argument for evo: everyone already uses it, argument >> against evo: jabber can be run by us with the advantages that entails >> [12:20:38] Rob Fay - whereas evo can't AFAIK >> [12:20:41] Derek Ross - evo is quite resource intensive >> [12:20:46] Ewan Mac Mahon- Well, we do sort-of all use EVO already as >> well, and it does have the possibility of turning a chat into an audo >> conversation. >> [12:21:09] Sam Skipsey - EVO is used by use because people keep scheduling >> meetings on it, not because it necessarily solves the problem we want to >> solve. >> [12:21:14] Rob Fay - audio is overrated, at least with text you can't hear >> the other people in graeme's office typing >> [12:21:19] Ewan Mac Mahon - Plus, AIUI it's trickier to get jabber to do >> chat rooms, it's more one-to-one. >> [12:21:43] Ewan Mac Mahon - I know it /can/ do multi-user, I'm just not >> sure how to do it. >> [12:21:45] Derek Ross - can be done its not that hard - the Tier 1 has one >> [12:21:51] Sam Skipsey - Jabber does do chat rooms, it's not too hard. >> [12:21:54] Derek Ross - we use conference.jabber.org >> [12:22:02] Ewan Mac Mahon - I think it needs setting up on the server >> though, doesn't it. >> [12:22:08] Sam Skipsey - Yes. >> [12:22:13] Derek Ross - Pidgin (a jaber client) seems well set up to use >> them >> [12:22:16] Christopher Walker - What we want - or to be more precise, what >> I want is a way of saying - hmm I've got this problem anyone have the same >> problem, or have anyideas. >> [12:22:22] Ewan Mac Mahon - You can't just /join #newchannel like you can >> on IRC. >> [12:22:33] Rob Fay - http://www.jabber.org/index.php/faq/#chatrooms >> [12:22:43] Sam Skipsey - However, IRC is horribly insecure, Ewan. >> [12:23:00] Derek Ross - true its hard to split off for small sub >> discussions with jabber unles they are 1-1 >> [12:23:38] Ewan Mac Mahon - Sam: It's unencrypted, but (unless you're >> using something like OTR) so is jabber. How's IRC any worse? >> [12:23:39] Sam Skipsey - And, according to Rob's link, it is quite >> possible to do IRC style "#newchannel" conference creation in RJabber. > > > > > -- > ScotGrid, Room 481, Kelvin Building, University of Glasgow > tel: +44(0)141 330 6439 > -- ScotGrid, Room 481, Kelvin Building, University of Glasgow tel: +44(0)141 330 6439