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i agree with your two posts, kasper. how about the rest of you? ana ----- Original Message ----- From: "kasper salonen" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: Re: The Greeks had a blue word for it > although in the Martial one the newer was a joyous improvement in my > eyes -- > parallelism between fcked/kissed! nice. > > KS > > 2009/8/21 kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> > >> I thought the "old Loeb version"-example the sauciest! >> >> KS >> >> 2009/8/21 Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> >> >> from article in The Australian by Luke Slattery >>> >>> In the old translation of Aristophanes' 'Acharnians' the unlikely hero, >>> Dicaeopolis, is first to arrive at the Athenian assembly. "I pass the >>> time >>> complaining, yawning, stretching," he says in the old translation. And >>> the >>> new: >>> "I sigh, I yawn, I stretch, I fart." >>> >>> A little later in the play we have a phallic hymn and procession which >>> seems to >>> capture the untamed Dionysiac spirit of archaic comedy: "Yes, it's far >>> more >>> pleasant, Phales Phales (the personification of the phallus), to catch a >>> budding >>> maid with pilfered wood -- Strymodorus Thracian girl from the Rocky >>> Bottom >>> -- >>> and grab her waist, lift her up, throw her down, and take her cherry." >>> >>> The old Loeb version was considerably more coy: "Far happier 'tis to me >>> and >>> sweeter, O Phales, Phales, some soft glade in, to woo the saucy, arch, >>> deceiving, young maiden, as from my woodland fells I meet her descending >>> with my >>> fagots laden, and catch her up, and ill entreat her, and make her pay >>> the >>> fine >>> for thieving." >>> >>> Stevenson offers this example from the Roman poet Martial. "You sang >>> badly, >>> Aegle, while your practices were normal. Now you sing well, but you >>> aren't >>> to be >>> kissed," ran the old version. This has been rendered anew as: "You sang >>> badly, >>> Aegle, in the days when you were f..ked. Now you sing well, but you >>> aren't >>> to be >>> kissed." >>> >>> etc >>> >>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25948349-25192,00.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au >>> >> >>