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it seems to be something for the stomach
found on google books:
Le collezioni Gonzaga: Il carteggio tra la corte cesarea e Mantova (1559-1636) / Elena Venturini
Author Raffaella Morselli
Publisher Silvana, 2005
search for the title on google books, when found --type in cidelle in the "search in this book" space. snippets from three pages should appear
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:20 PM , Michael Papio wrote:
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> For what it's worth, my guess is that "in cidelle" means "in rings" or "in round
> shapes." Carlo Salvioni (Archivio glottologico italiano 16.2 (1904): p. 296)
> registers "cidella" as a Trentino dialect word for "girella" (Mantuan
> "zidella").
>
> If you put "cidella" and "tortura" into Google books, you find another instance
> of it meaning "girella" in the sense of "pulley" (evidently, the strappado) but
> putting in "cidella" together with "lapislazuli" gives you "ring" - as in
> jewelry.
>
> I hope that this may, in some way, come in handy. Good luck,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Scrive Deanna Shemek :
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> > Dear Colleagues,
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> > I'm hoping someone might be able to assist me in translation of a
> > phrase from Isabella d'Este's letters. In a letter of 1495, she orders
> > some "sapone da capo facto in cidelle [incidelle]."
> >
> > Cidella is not to be found in Battaglia nor in any Mantuan dialect
> > dictionaries. I find no Internet leads---in fact there is a page (not
> > created by me) that asks what "cidella" means, with no answers logged.
> > Does anyone know what this term means?
> > Many thanks.
> >
> >
> > Deanna Shemek
> > Provost, Cowell College
> > Professor, Italian and Comparative Literature
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