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But I think that there is also an enhancement of the symbolic dimension in television itself. I think, all of us, not certain cohorst, are watching television without getting lost in television all the time, but we are in an attentive (not passive in a negative sense) mood and preparing for the moment to get finally lost. Some people may be waiting forever, but still they are waiting for something, and many if not most of the people find things to get lost into. Think of the moment when your are aimlessly going through the channels and finally you get hooked on a film for no apparent reason. This is why a sometimes prefer watching films on television to watching them in the cinema. That things are being made to appear in mutual colloboration with the viewer and the art object is the reason why I find television also interesting in a philosophical sense. (That people in the cinema become attracted by car chases and explosion should not be credited to television but to cinema itself. That people can become attracted by certain moments of advertisements or films as well is a topic of film theory and surrealism since the 1920s and the concept of photogénie). Herbert Manning schrieb: > But I think in this case superficiality and the loss of the symbolic > dimension is the key. Admittedly most kids get lost in the fantasy world > of television in a quasi-active way, and the aesthetics of television > then is worth exploring. However, watch adolescents watching screens. > There are a certain cohort who do not get lost in front of the > television in a (symbolized) fantasy world but in an idiotic evacuation > of the symbolic. The former we do not have to worry about, the latter we > do. So when adolescents go to the cinema, this latter group are > sometimes just happy to occupied by explosions and car chases, but > equally fascinated by the advertisements. And soon we will ask them to > vote. > rwm > > > > > > * * Film-Philosophy salon After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] Or visit: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/film-philosophy.html For technical help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon * Film-Philosophy online: http://www.film-philosophy.com Contact: [log in to unmask] **