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I agree that we should ask the JISC to put this service on their wishlist. Here at MMU we have just been quoted - wait for it - £52,000!! This may be because we're mutli-site but even so, £52K - during a recession!! Here's an excerpt from their email: 'We would be able to give all students' access to WGSN across the different sites. Our commercial business rates for 1000 users is £525,000. However, as we would like to support educational institutions such as yours, I am in a position to offer you a 90% discount of this price, enabling all students across the different sites to access WGSN. Therefore the price we could offer you is £52,000 for a 12-month subscription with unlimited users and multi-site access.' It would be useful to know whether anyone else been quoted anything like this before we go back to WGSN to try to negotiate a more manageable price? Regards Jayne (absolutely incredulous of MMU!) Jayne Burgess Library Services Manager (Art & Design/Special Collections) Manchester Metropolitan University Sir Kenneth Green Library, All Saints, Manchester M15 6BH E: [log in to unmask] T: 0161 247 6637 Visit http://www.specialcollections.mmu.ac.uk/ for more information about the MMU Special Collections Museum Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University's email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer >>> Elik Borrill <[log in to unmask]> 11/08/2009 16:52 >>> Hi, Should we enter WGSN on JISC's database wish list? Hopefully through them a better deal could be negotiated on our behalf. Regards Elik Borrill Subject librarian: Design & Craft, Human Sciences & Law, Visual & Communication Arts Buckinghamshire New University Ext. 3292 ________________________________ From: This is the list of ARLIS/UK & Ireland: the Art Libraries Society. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Antonia Leak Sent: 11 August 2009 16:29 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: WGSN Hi Thank you to all those people who have contacted me about the new WGSN service. I received 11 responses and decisions seem to be divided as follows: - 5 will not be subscribing to the new service & conditions - 3 are undecided but lack of funding is the main stumbling block - 3 have subscribed, although 1 respondent has renegotiated their licence [see further information below] Given the point Nicola made in her posting to this list this afternoon, it might be too late for a collective response from ARLIS. However, I've summarized below the points made by the respondent who renegotiated their licence, in case it is of use to you for your institution. - Several of the clauses in the commercial licence were unsuitable for educational purposes, therefore an educational licence was negotiated with considerable effort. It's not clear if this will become a standard one offered to other libraries in the future. - Unless you have a proxy server, access can only be on campus. Maybe ARLIS members can individually press for future WGSN to be Shibboleth-compliant? - The price quoted to people has varied but the standard one now seems to be £3000 plus VAT; the recommendation is to haggle further It will be interesting to learn in the coming months how many libraries took up the new WGSN subscription and how they've found the service, as well to see how WGSN adjust their pricing, licence and access terms in the future. Kind regards, Antonia Leak Deputy Librarian The Arts University College at Bournemouth Wallisdown, Poole DORSET, BH12 5HH [log in to unmask] Tel: 01202-363394 Fax: 01202-537729 www.aucb.ac.uk ********************************************************************************************************* The contents of this communication are confidential and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you have received this email in error please delete it and do not disseminate, distribute, copy or alter it. Any views or opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The Arts University College at Bournemouth. Although The Arts University College at Bournemouth has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the University College cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. ********************************************************************************************************* For up to date information on forthcoming workshops and free visits please see the online ARLIS/UK & Ireland Events Calendar 2009 at http://www.arlis.org.uk/ For up to date information on forthcoming workshops and free visits please see the online ARLIS/UK & Ireland Events Calendar 2009 at http://www.arlis.org.uk/ For up to date information on forthcoming workshops and free visits please see the online ARLIS/UK & Ireland Events Calendar 2009 at http://www.arlis.org.uk/