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Mainly, I think sleep deprivation and intense activity were/are used to help disrupt existing patterns of cognition and behaviour and then begin developing new expectations/culture and cognitive-behavioural patterns - much as might cults or torture but supposedly for humanistic educational goals

Roger Greenaway wrote:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">At 09:16 17/07/2009, James Neill wrote:
we intentionally used sleep deprivation as part of the double-edged sword psychological milieu

So what were/are the expected benefits of sleep deprivation?

Why is sleep deprivation thought to be unfavourable for learning in a school environment (according to Andrew) but a favourable factor on an outdoor programme (the favourable edge of James' sword)?

A while ago ... instead of trying to get young people out of bed for breakfast and then back to bed at 'bed time', we simply shifted the programme by 4 or 5 hours, got up for brunch around midday and worked into the early hours of the morning. It seemed to suit everyone well. We also worked a shift system on longer programmes to try to ensure that staff were not working in a sleep deprived state.

My concern about young people getting enough zzzzzzzzs arose partly from reading 'Darker Side of the Moonies' and realising just how vulnerable young people can be when sleep deprived - not a recommended state to be in when making significant choices and decisions.

And linking back to the 'Third Man' - it would surely be irresponsible to place young people in a situation where they are likely to hallucinate, especially if they come to believe that such hallucinations are real.

On the other hand (or is this a third hand?) I can't see an outdoor provider saying "Spend a week with us and catch up on your sleep". Is not sleep deprivation simply an undesirable side effect of providers (and participants) trying to pack in as much as they can? I cannot see how (or why) it can be used as an intentional strategy.

Roger

Roger Greenaway
Reviewing Skills Training
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