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This is the NHS numbers for babies system, which is evolving. http://www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/systemsandservices/demographics/pds/contents/births The information pages have now moved to the NHS intranet http://www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/systemsandservices/nhsnumber/nn4b here is the leaflet for parents http://www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/systemsandservices/nhsnumber/patients/nhsnumberbabies.pdf There is a small dataset attached to the NHS numbers for babies notification. It includes the place of birth, the organisation code of the organisation providing care and of that notifying the birth, which is usually the same, but nothing about the profession of the lead professional at birth. Alison Alison Macfarlane Department of Midwifery and Child Health City University London 20 Bartholomew Close London EC1A 7QN Phone (0) (44) 207 040 5832 Fax (0) (44) 207 040 5717 Email [log in to unmask] www.city.ac.uk This email and its contents are the property of City University London. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and any attached files, please delete it. Unauthorised copying or distribution of this message, its attachments or parts thereof, is strictly prohibited unless specifically stated otherwise. Please consider the environment before printing my email ________________________________ From: Penny Haora [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 24 July 2009 10:35 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: query for UK researchers Even though a clinician is not involved in the registration process, the place of birth is recorded by the registrar - and in some countries the birth attendant is also recorded. Although I see this does not seem to be the case in England - the hospital does notify the registrar of the birth - not sure how this works - possible that they might provide the registrar further information? http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/births/registeringabirth/whatinformation.asp http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/births/registeringabirth/whatdocuments.asp bw Penny ________________________________ From: A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Macfarlane, Alison Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 7:10 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: query for UK researchers In all four countries of the United Kingdom, birth registration is civil registration by the parents or, exceptionally, another next of kin. There is no clinician involved. In the case of a stillbirth or death, people registering the event have to present a medical certificate signed by a clinician, usually a doctor, and giving the causes of death. Alison Alison Macfarlane Department of Midwifery and Child Health City University London 20 Bartholomew Close London EC1A 7QN Phone (0) (44) 207 040 5832 Fax (0) (44) 207 040 5717 Email [log in to unmask] www.city.ac.uk This email and its contents are the property of City University London. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and any attached files, please delete it. Unauthorised copying or distribution of this message, its attachments or parts thereof, is strictly prohibited unless specifically stated otherwise. Please consider the environment before printing my email ________________________________ From: Penny Haora [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 24 July 2009 10:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: query for UK researchers Just a thought... there wouldn't be anything on birth attendant from the birth registration stats would there? As opposed to health services data. This is recorded in some countries... bw Penny ______________________________________________ Penny Haora RM MPH PhD Candidate (Thai Health Risks Transition Study) Maternal, Neonatal & Child Health 'Population Health in the Asia-Pacific' Research Theme National Centre for Epidemiology & Population Health (NCEPH) ANU College of Medicine and Health Sciences Bdg 62, Mills Road The Australian National University Canberra, ACT, 0200 Phone: (02) 6125 5618 [intnl +61 2 6125 5618] Mob: 0403 51 6633 [intnl +61 403 51 6633] Fax: (02) 6125 0740 [intnl +61 2 6125 0740] Email: [log in to unmask] Web: http://nceph.anu.edu.au/Thai_Cohort_Study/index.php http://www.stou.ac.th/ANU/ CRICOS Provider 00120C ________________________________ From: A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hunter, Billie Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: query for UK researchers Many thanks Alison, much appreciated - as I thought, information about birth attendants is only available for England. A frustrating lack of data if you are trying to make a case for the importance of midwives! All the best Billie From: A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Macfarlane, Alison Sent: 23 July 2009 16:50 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: query for UK researchers What United Kingdom? Data for England are here. http://www.hesonline.nhs.uk/Ease/servlet/ContentServer?siteID=1937&categoryID=1014 See comments on data quality. Wales. It only has method of delivery, not person conducting it. http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/2009/090325sdr422009aen.pdf Ditto for Scotland, although it is worth querying this with the ISD contacts guiven on this web site http://www.isdscotland.org/isd/1019.html In Northern Ireland, data are not routinely collated. See BirthchoiceUK web site. http://www.birthchoiceuk.com/BirthChoiceUKFrame.htm?http://www.birthchoiceuk.com/StatsExplain.htm Good luck, Alison Alison Macfarlane Department of Midwifery and Child Health City University London 20 Bartholomew Close London EC1A 7QN Phone (0) (44) 207 040 5832 Fax (0) (44) 207 040 5717 Email [log in to unmask] www.city.ac.uk This email and its contents are the property of City University London. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and any attached files, please delete it. Unauthorised copying or distribution of this message, its attachments or parts thereof, is strictly prohibited unless specifically stated otherwise. Please consider the environment before printing my email ________________________________ From: Hunter, Billie [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 23 July 2009 16:23 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: query for UK researchers Dear all I'm struggling to find out the most recent figures for the number of midwife attended births in the UK - does anyone know how to access this information? It doesn't seem to be held with all the usual Birth stats information, but maybe I'm missing something! Also - I need to reference the 'old' midwifery clinical grades for an international journal paper. Again, does anyone know of a website where this info is held - I can only find details of the new banding scale. Many thanks in anticipation! All the best Billie Billie Hunter Professor of Midwifery Institute for Health Research Floor 2 Vivian Tower Swansea University Swansea SA2 8PP Tel: +44 (0)1792 518584 Fax: +44 (0) 1792 295127