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All,
     As a general comment, most biotite has significant Fe3+ that is  
being unmeasured or uncorrected.
cheers,
eric

On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Pavel Pitra wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> for the moment there is no good MnNCKFMASHTO a-x file available,  
> although, as far as I know, some people around Roger Powell are  
> working on it.
>
> Then, if one wants to deal with this system, one has to do some  
> choices. If Mn is an important component, then it certainly is  
> important in garnet and you then have to choose the garnet model  
> with Mn and without Fe3. Such approach has been adopted e.g. by  
> Hasalova et al. (including RP) (2008) and this point is discussed  
> there on p. 63.
> As far as biotite is concerned, given its systematically low  
> contents of Mn, it is certainly much more important to keep the Ti- 
> bearing model.
> If one is interested in low T conditions (and the beginning of  
> garnet growth), other Mn-bearing phases have to be included and  
> chlorite comes to mind as the most important candidate (there is no  
> model for Mn-bearing ilmenite). This is what we have done in Le  
> Bayon et al. (2006) - the model is described there (and I can send  
> you the file).
> Mn can be also included by ideal mixing (although it probably is not  
> ideal ;)) into cd, st and ctd.
>
> this is what we are currently using - it sort of works...
>
> Good luck,
>
> Pavel
>
>
> Hasalová, P., Stípská, P., Powell, R., Schulmann, K., Janousek, V. &  
> Lexa, O., 2008. Transforming mylonitic metagranite by open-system  
> interactions during melt flow. Journal of Metamorphic Geology,  
> 26(1), 55-80.
>
> Le Bayon, B., Pitra, P., Ballčvre, M. & Bohn, M., 2006.  
> Reconstructing P-T paths during continental collision using multi- 
> stage garnet (Gran Paradiso nappe, Western Alps). Journal of  
> Metamorphic Geology, 24(6), 477-496.
>
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>> Unfortunately that will not work. The MnNCKFMASHTO file contains  
>> the a-X relationships for garnet and biotite, amongst others, which  
>> includes 'O' in their formulation. I cannot simply delete the  
>> oxides. Moreover, I cannot use the MnNCKMASH datafile for biotite  
>> because Ti is then missing!
>>
>>
>> Dr Martin J. Rigby
>> Department of Geology
>> University of Pretoria
>> Pretoria 0002
>> Republic of South Africa
>
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