All, As a general comment, most biotite has significant Fe3+ that is being unmeasured or uncorrected. cheers, eric On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Pavel Pitra wrote: > Hi Martin, > > for the moment there is no good MnNCKFMASHTO a-x file available, > although, as far as I know, some people around Roger Powell are > working on it. > > Then, if one wants to deal with this system, one has to do some > choices. If Mn is an important component, then it certainly is > important in garnet and you then have to choose the garnet model > with Mn and without Fe3. Such approach has been adopted e.g. by > Hasalova et al. (including RP) (2008) and this point is discussed > there on p. 63. > As far as biotite is concerned, given its systematically low > contents of Mn, it is certainly much more important to keep the Ti- > bearing model. > If one is interested in low T conditions (and the beginning of > garnet growth), other Mn-bearing phases have to be included and > chlorite comes to mind as the most important candidate (there is no > model for Mn-bearing ilmenite). This is what we have done in Le > Bayon et al. (2006) - the model is described there (and I can send > you the file). > Mn can be also included by ideal mixing (although it probably is not > ideal ;)) into cd, st and ctd. > > this is what we are currently using - it sort of works... > > Good luck, > > Pavel > > > Hasalová, P., Stípská, P., Powell, R., Schulmann, K., Janousek, V. & > Lexa, O., 2008. Transforming mylonitic metagranite by open-system > interactions during melt flow. Journal of Metamorphic Geology, > 26(1), 55-80. > > Le Bayon, B., Pitra, P., Ballčvre, M. & Bohn, M., 2006. > Reconstructing P-T paths during continental collision using multi- > stage garnet (Gran Paradiso nappe, Western Alps). Journal of > Metamorphic Geology, 24(6), 477-496. > > ---- >> Unfortunately that will not work. The MnNCKFMASHTO file contains >> the a-X relationships for garnet and biotite, amongst others, which >> includes 'O' in their formulation. I cannot simply delete the >> oxides. Moreover, I cannot use the MnNCKMASH datafile for biotite >> because Ti is then missing! >> >> >> Dr Martin J. Rigby >> Department of Geology >> University of Pretoria >> Pretoria 0002 >> Republic of South Africa > > > -- > Pavel PITRA > Geosciences Rennes email: [log in to unmask] > Université Rennes 1 tel: (++33) 2.23.23.65.06 > Campus de Beaulieu - Bat. 15 fax: (++33) 2.23.23.60.97 > F - 35 042 RENNES CEDEX > FRANCE http://www.geosciences.univ-rennes1.fr/ > http://www.geosciences.univ-rennes1.fr/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=71 > >