And my recent (on-going) experience is that my mobile phone provider, a bank and a credit card issuer changed my address, issued a card and made a balance transfer on the strength of a telephone call. To be fair to them the thief appears to have quite a few personal and card details which surprised me. Indeed it seems certain (to me) that they must have access to data from a firm with which I have done business using the credit card in question. Only the realisation by telephone staff in two of those organisations that my full names were unlikely to belong to someone with a strong African accent led them to make checks with me direct. Given that I am pretty careful with my data, this has been a further warning. Regards Jim =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rhona Kingett Sent: 30 June 2009 9:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Updating banking information Similarly my experience, also having recently moved home, is that my telephone banking service took the instruction over the phone without any "written and signed instructions" required. Rhona Rhona Kingett Information Governance B4 New Walk Centre Leicester Tel 0116 252 7024 Internal Tel 297024 >>> "Bradshaw, Phillip" <[log in to unmask]> 29/06/2009 16:57 >>> My experience, having recently moved home, is that they no longer accept "written and signed instructions" without the provision of additional security information either by phone or via the internet. Phillip Bradshaw Information Manager Clerk to the Council Room CY4B, County Hall EMail: [log in to unmask] Phone: 029 2087 3346 Mobile : 07890 265987 Fax: 029 2087 3349 Mae Cyhoeddi Cynnar yn Codi Canfod Cadarnhaol Proactive Publishing Promotes Positive Perceptions -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of GRAHAM Susan Sent: 29 June 2009 16:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Updating banking information Our Finance department have heard on the grapevine that the Information Commissioner has issued best practice advice that they should only update people's banking information on receipt of written and signed instructions (ie a letter rather than email). Does anyone know the origin of this? I can't find the guidance on the Commissioner's website, and I can't see how such advice would be compatible with things like Internet and telephone banking. 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