appalling
redacted
pulchritude
of moles
and galls
and starlings
P
From: British & Irish poets
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of ian davidson
Sent: 13 July 2009 13:55
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Subject: Re: appalling, redacted, pulchritude
someone might have mentioned this earlier
in the thread, but there is a film called 'redacted'. found a copy on my table
this morning, left by a family member I presume.
it's by Brian de Palma. 'one of the most notorious and controversial war films
ever made' it says on the back, and 'truth is the first casualty of war' on the
front.
Not watched it yet.
But the coincidence must be worth something.
ian
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:52:31 +0100
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Subject: Re: appalling, redacted, pulchritude
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I
explained my reasons for not liking
redacted but I don't feel under any obligation to defend my
reasons. So enjoy your drinkie-poo - it's gonna be a long one!
By
the way - I passed Tewksbury the other day. I've never been to the town
and have never known anyone who came from it but it's one of my favourite
place names. If anyone has a problem with that - tough!
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Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 09,
2009 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: appalling,
redacted, pulchritude
Geraldine, what are your
feelings about 'didactic'? Or 'reacted'? Or refracted? Or 'inducted'?
I'll have a drink before I
read your answer.
John
From: British
& Irish poets [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Geraldine
Monk
Sent: 09 July 2009 14:08
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Subject: Re: appalling, redacted, pulchritude
Yes
except I don't like it - honestly! It's ugly.
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Sent: Thursday, July 09,
2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: appalling,
redacted, pulchritude
Yes,
I think I was in happier climes just then, though I caught the gist of it.
"Redacted" must have been a failed attempt to give it an air of
respectability, by deliberately avoiding "revised". There are
probably people with degrees in English employed for that kind of exercise. I
don't think it means that redact has changed its meaning, only that it's been
used dishonestly (though not incorrectly), as so many words are. I can
understand a distaste about the word because of that, but perhaps one way of
fighting back would be to continue to use the word honestly.
Pr
On
9 Jul 2009, at 11:47, Geraldine Monk wrote:
Peter. Do you mean you missed the M.P.'s redacted expenses
that had the whole country up in arms and rioting
in our kitchens if not the streets. Huge swathes of
blacked out sheets of paper which was the governments idea of 'openness'.
Maybe it was when you were in the Orkneys? Anyway like you say 'if you
revise your own poem you redact it' and between the two I much prefer revise
When and where did this take-over happen? for I've never seen it.
To my knowledge redact means to edit, or create, a (literary)
formulation, and is very commonly used as such. It isn't necessarily something
you do to somebody else's work; if you revise your own poem you redact it. So I
find it difficult to know what is being gone on about here.
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