From: John Hall <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 3:16:49 PM
Subject: Re: appalling, redacted, pulchritude
Geraldine, what are your feelings about 'didactic'? Or 'reacted'? Or refracted? Or 'inducted'?
I'll have a drink before I read your answer.
John
Yes except I don't like it - honestly! It's ugly.
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Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: appalling, redacted, pulchritude
Yes, I think I was in happier climes just then, though I caught the gist of it. "Redacted" must have been a failed attempt to give it an air of respectability, by deliberately avoiding "revised". There are probably people with degrees in English employed for that kind of exercise. I don't think it means that redact has changed its meaning, only that it's been used dishonestly (though not incorrectly), as so many words are. I can understand a distaste about the word because of that, but perhaps one way of fighting back would be to continue to use the word honestly.
Pr
On 9 Jul 2009, at 11:47, Geraldine Monk wrote:
Peter. Do you mean you missed the M.P.'s redacted expenses that had the whole country up in arms and rioting in our kitchens if not the streets. Huge swathes of blacked out sheets of paper which was the governments idea of 'openness'. Maybe it was when you were in the Orkneys? Anyway like you say 'if you revise your own poem you redact it' and between the two I much prefer revise
G.
When and where did this take-over happen? for I've never seen it. To my knowledge redact means to edit, or create, a (literary) formulation, and is very commonly used as such. It isn't necessarily something you do to somebody else's work; if you revise your own poem you redact it. So I find it difficult to know what is being gone on about here.
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