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Thanks for the clarification!
-M

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Lucas Eggert <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Muhammad,
>
> let me try to give an answer here:
>
> In case of the two-sample t-test you do not need a separate group
> regressor, because you specify the groups already via the
> corresponding design (second-level model; cf. the first do columns of the
> resulting design matrix).
> There you would define a covariate for every additional factor you like to
> control for in the model.
>
> Hope that helps,
> -Lucas
>
>  Hi Udo,
>>
>> Is this true even for 2-sample T-test, where we specify scans for each
>> group differently? Do we still need a separate 'group' regressor?
>>
>> -Muhammad
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Udo Dannlowski <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>>    Dear Lucas,
>>
>>    for a group comparison, you would have to model a regressor for
>>    group. If you
>>    have regressors for "group", "IV", "age", "gender" you'd have to
>>    set the
>>    contrast weight either 1 0 0 0  or -1 0 0 0 for a t-test showing
>>    group1 >
>>    group2 or group2 > group1 respectively, controlling for IV, age,
>>    and gender.
>>
>>    Good luck,
>>
>>    Udo
>>
>>    Lucas Eggert schrieb am 2009-06-27:
>>    > Dear Donald McLaren,
>>
>>    > >You want [1 0 0] which is the positive effect, assuming a T-test,
>>    > >of your IV on volume.
>>
>>    > >[1 1 1] is the average effect of your IV, age, and gender. This
>>    > >would be very hard to interpret.
>>
>>    > Ok.
>>
>>    > In case, I would try a two-sample t-test to compare the gray matter
>>    > volume between two groups, again controlling for the effect of age
>>    > and gender,
>>    > would the contrast be defined analogously, i.e. e.g. "1 -1 0 0"? Or
>>    > would I do this also in a multiple regression model with an
>>    > additional regressor 'group'? And would the
>>    > contrast be "1 1 0 0" then (for "group", "IV", "age", "gender")?
>>
>>    > Thank you very much for your help!
>>
>>    > All the best,
>>    > -Lucas
>>
>>    --
>>    Dr. med. Dipl.-Psych. Udo Dannlowski
>>    Cognitive Neuropsychiatry Research Group
>>    Department of Psychiatry
>>    University of Münster
>>    Albert-Schweitzer-Str. 11
>>    48149 Münster
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