 |
 |
>>Are you a poet?That is a great question. How would I know? I took a poetry class once that made me think it wasn't for me. Rilke's "Letters To A Young Poet" is one of my favorite reads. I write and have notebooks full of thoughts. I write lyrics and record myself attempting to sing and if I meet someone that strikes me as odd I give them the recording. I don't know Judy. Aren't we all poets in some way shape or form? I like what you wrote and it conjured a clear vision within me. Alison's comment did as well. I'm enjoying everyones thoughts on here. Very interesting & insightful. Is poetry the urge to express ones self in words? Than maybe I am a poet. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Thank you, Angel. Much appreciated. > Are you a poet? > > Judy > > 2009/6/2 Angel <[log in to unmask]> > > > Pretty > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jun 2, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > *Poetic Diary of a Clairvoyant Neanderthal in the Ardeche* > >> > >> "Didn't see that coming!" "Who knew?" > >> Bourgeois affectations, these parrots of parlance > >> forgetting the node of Knowing > >> sited above the back of the tongue, locked midbrain. > >> > >> We rooted useful otoliths, > >> cosmic clocks under pterodactyl eggs, Eiffel's > >> draped folly. "If you invent it, > >> you must continue to use it," one of you said. > >> > >> Indeed, through the scrumming rocksoil, > >> the river delta drowns, our words like mouth-poison, > >> we stayed here, and, staying, found > >> we'd eat one another, until we learned to say no. > >> > >> You've deified mind and body > >> the skin of cabernet grapes, silky light cocoons. > >> Some of you reached and will reach more > >> boredom with maps, mating, stars, studies, artful talk. > >> > >> You have always trusted your eyes. > >> When they fail, you see the people you've never seen. > >> You see prehistoric prophets > >> gutting your cool fish, roasting your rosemaried lambs > >> at each religion's guillotine. > >> > >> You think we cannot say your words > >> though we've said them in night-rhyming jasmine blossoms, > >> your heart-windows lifted in sleep, > >> and we told the morningbirds to talk you awake. > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Judy > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 2009/6/2 Martin Walker <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> Judy, I cannot dissert on anything, as in person I dribble & forget - > >>> what? > >>> words, words. I do cook a decent curry & other things though. I usually > >>> drink Côtes du Rhône as a good Saint Emilion is beyond my humble > >>> pensioner's > >>> purse. And I live nowhere near there but in the Ardèche near Vallon > Pont > >>> d'Arc, where they found the Grotte Chauvet in 1994, with the world's > >>> oldest > >>> cave drawings, if I am not mistaken. B/c me for address. > >>> votre humble serviteur > >>> mj > >>> > >>> Du siehst mein Sohn, zum Raum wird hier die Zeit. > >>> Gurnemanz > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Judy Prince > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:05 PM > >>> Subject: Re: "Previously unpublished" > >>> > >>> > >>> Martin, please prepare your dissertations on Brathwaite et al as you're > >>> preparing dinner for me and a friend who may be taking you up on your > >>> invitation to visit...around 20 July. You do live close to St. > Emilion, > >>> don't you? > >>> Yippeee!!! > >>> > >>> Judy > >>> > >>> 2009/6/2 Martin Walker <[log in to unmask]> > >>> > >>> Perhaps I should have written "not so well known internationally any > >>>> > >>> more" > >>> > >>>> (though I stand open to correction here, being not so conversant with > >>>> all > >>>> the trends of the moment) and "in the Anglo-American poetry world > Derek > >>>> Walcott..." When I first started exploring modern poetry Brathwaite > was > >>>> > >>> an > >>> > >>>> important figure - then the wind blew in the other direction and > Walcott > >>>> became more famous. Though confusingly the Chadwyck-Healey 20th > Century > >>>> English poetry CD-Rom only includes Brathwaite. So it goes, probably > >>>> something to do with licensing fees....I personally think poetry is > more > >>>> like Hegel's burrowing mole of revolution and that - like great music > - > >>>> > >>> it > >>> > >>>> takes time to reach those who become ready for it and unconsciously > look > >>>> for > >>>> it. The DOA theory is erroneous because that vast monster, language, > >>>> > >>> takes > >>> > >>>> its time to ingest and regurgitate. But as Hal says, a poem only needs > >>>> > >>> one > >>> > >>>> reader. In each case that is "me". > >>>> mj > >>>> Du siehst mein Sohn, zum Raum wird hier die Zeit. - Gurnemanz > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Martin Walker > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:13 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: "Previously unpublished" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Bra(i)thwaite, Stephen? Methinks you got your West Indians mixed up > ;-). > >>>> Edward Kamau B. is as you say not so well known, but in the poetry > world > >>>> Derek Walcott has been much read and fêted. And has poetry ever - at > >>>> > >>> least > >>> > >>>> since bardic times - been much more than a diversion of the clerisy & > >>>> purveyors of high-class entertainment to the ruling caste, he asked > >>>> wickedly? > >>>> mj > >>>> Du siehst mein Sohn, zum Raum wird hier die Zeit. - Gurnemanz > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Stephen Vincent > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:06 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: "Previously unpublished" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I been thinking - and maybe others have, as well - that a poem does > not > >>>> exist in any of the public spheres (online, print, etc.) until it > >>>> > >>> 'breeds' > >>> > >>>> a > >>>> review and/or critical response in the eye/ear in a similar or > entirely > >>>> separate public channel (online,print, etc.) And something continues > to > >>>> grow > >>>> from there. > >>>> > >>>> I am thinking that most poetry, no matter how well or diligently > written > >>>> has become absolutely frivolous. Frivolous because it has no visible, > or > >>>> useful function in the culture(s). It's just dead on arrival! The > >>>> mechanisms > >>>> for making it so appear entirely devoid of vitality. > >>>> At best Hermes is talking to Hermes. > >>>> > >>>> Until such public means (call and response) are constructed (again), > no > >>>> matter our skills and muse fidelities, in terms of any longer being a > >>>> big > >>>> public animal, we be sweeping salt. (i.e., there is much work to be > >>>> done, > >>>> and why the weekly poetry snap here can be and is valuable). > >>>> > >>>> Whatever his graces, flaws, etc. I suspect Padel was able for a bit to > >>>> play her ruse on Braithwaite and make it persuasive was because not > many > >>>> > >>> in > >>> > >>>> this world had read his poetry. Where issues of sexual harassment are > - > >>>> > >>> and > >>> > >>>> rightly so - required literacy and training in multiple (academic, > >>>> corporate, etc.) environments. And consequently publicly persuasive > and, > >>>> for > >>>> a time, ruled this discussion > >>>> > >>>> On this this joyous note! > >>>> > >>>> Stephen V > >>>> http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>> >