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No, I'm afraid not, almost insular creature that I am. And it came out too late for Dante's tourist brouchure. 2009/6/22 Rachel Loden <[log in to unmask]> > Definitely! I take it you've never been to Buffalo. > > David Bircumshaw wrote: > > > is that a descending scale ? > > > > 2009/6/21 Rachel Loden <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > Yes it is, David -- purgatory, inferno, or a month in Buffalo? > > > > > > Choices, choices.... > > > > > > > David Bircumshaw wrote: > > > > > > > The quote anyhow is a translation of Dante, isn't it? From > > > > the Inferno. So > > > > at least we're not in Purgatory. > > > > > > > > 2009/6/20 Rachel Loden <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > > Stephen, I don't mean that I like them to be caught in > > > > purgatory. I mean > > > > > that I like the image -- because I think all of us are > > > > caught in these > > > > > databases, whether we like it or not. We are the ghosts > > > > we've been warned > > > > > about. "A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many..." Goonight. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics > > > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Vincent > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > Subject: Re: a visit to the possum (at poetry daily today) > > > > > > > > > > > > "I like the notion of the ghosts as half in the databases, > > > > > > and half out -- > > > > > > each caught in that purgatory." > > > > > > > > > > > > Rachel, I think the Jews have had enough, let alone a few > > > > > > other tribes. I say keep the ghosts - more fun, at least more > > > > > > fun for writing- and leave the codes for dull and the DMV! > > > > > > (Lots of luck!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Vincent wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If my memory serves me well, Earp is in the Jewish > > > > > > > cemetery(??). His wife was Jewish. > > > > > > > In San Francisco; two of the Jewish synagogues had > > cemeteries > > > > > > > in what is now Dolores Park - two blocks from where I live. > > > > > > > In 1890 or so the graves were lifted (unburied) and taken > > > > > > > down to Colma (between 5 & 10 miles away). Personally I > > > > > > > don't believe all the graves were emptied, nor the bones of > > > > > > > the Ohlone Indians that preceded the Jews. On a good day you > > > > > > > get the ghosts. The ones that no one could ever fit into a > > > > > > data-base. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earp,I believe, without going to Google, was > > buried in Colma > > > > > > > after the 1890 bone removal. So no local ghostly sight of a > > > > > > > Stetson bearing man - but that would be neat (I think!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I count those ghosts among my friends - mostly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Rachel! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Mark Weiss > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: a visit to the possum (at poetry daily today) > > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did they really bury Earp in his stetson? Waste of a good > > > > > > hat. A hat > > > > > > > to hang a head on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:45 PM 6/19/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > > >There are no dead pets in the poem, though, unless we want > > > > > > > to imagine Tom as > > > > > > > >Ezra's pet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dead poets, maybe -- dead pets, no..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Catherine Daly wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the dead pets are in Daly City, tho > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Rachel Loden > > > > > > > > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear P'etceteras, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > De-lurking briefly to say that "Dear Possum," > > my riff on a > > > > > > > > > few lines from > > > > > > > > > > "The Waste Land," is at Poetry Daily today: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://poems.com/poem.php?date=14415 > > > > > > > > > > <blocked::http://poems.com/poem.php?date=14415> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and will be in their archives for a year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back under the black waves but looking > > forward to summer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (and, I hope, being here), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rachel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ahsahtapress.boisestate.edu/books/loden/loden.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > > > > > Catherine Daly > > > > > > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David Bircumshaw > > > > "Nothing can be done in the face > > > > of ordinary unhappiness" - PP > > > > Website and A Chide's Alphabet > > > > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > > > > The Animal Subsides > > http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > > > > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > David Bircumshaw > > "Nothing can be done in the face > > of ordinary unhappiness" - PP > > Website and A Chide's Alphabet > > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk > > > -- David Bircumshaw "Nothing can be done in the face of ordinary unhappiness" - PP Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk