Hi all thanks so much for contributing to this discussion on preservation versus documentation of new media art - i've really been enjoying the responses so far. further to Annet's email, i wonder if i can ask some direct questions of people lurking on the list: Wolfgang Strauss: in working with the ZKM to preserve Netzspannung.org do you still feel responsibility for ongoing documentation of your own activities in relation to it? Anne Laforet: what are some of the more interesting documentation strategies you've come across in your study of how museums are dealing with net art? Sandra Fauconnier and Gaby Wijers at NIMK: how has involving the public in curatorial selection of works in the archive (through the new mediatheque, or curator for a day project, for instance) led to new ways of thinking about preservation and documentation of the works? Can you tell us a bit about inside-installations.org and the OASIS project (Open Archiving System with Internet Sharing)? Aymeric Mansoux at GOTO10: do you think the idea of 'open-sourcing' documentation tasks, by distributing them to the makers/developers, is a good solution? any thoughts from any others would be great too, thanks sarah On 10 Jun 2009, at 15:07, annet wrote: > Dear all, > Although we're not completely finished with deciphering all the > notes and remarks from our meeting I thought it would be good for > the discussion to share some of the results with you. > > Archive 2020 was a first attempt to sketch out the issues and > problems that surround born digital cultural content. Although we > focused on the meaning and possibility of online archives. Most of > the attention went to the investigation of existing practices, > examples of failures and successes were mentioned and pro's and > con's of various strategies were discussed. > > *what follows is a short outline of some of the issues: > > How can an ONLINE ARCHIVE be SUSTAINABLE? Suggestions that were made:* > - shared responsibility, a bottom-up approach: create or organise a > network that feels responsible and is involved in the process or > content of the work. Think in the line of social networking > strategies that collaborate on creating shared resources and > knowledge. In the long run it would be important to clarify and > distribute responsibilities. > - distribute the work as much as possible: think of remixing > strategies and what Kevin Kely calls Ğmovageğ, the more it is out > there, the more it is seen and the better it is archived. > Interesting examples were named that showed the working of this > 'underground' archive strategy. > - centralise: integrate into existing institutions and have them > apply for projectfunding. While this strategy has many positive > sides it is important that a project is grounded into the > institution and that it is not in the hands of one (enthousiast) > individual. It also needs to be very clear what happens if funding > stops > - standardise: with the same indexing standards access will become > easier, an international task force is needed that takes this up, > maybe even similar to the Wikipedia model > > > *The issue of sustainability let inevitably to the DISCUSSION OF > RESPONSIBILITY: who is responsible and what is the role of the > artist, programmer, curator, museum, audience,...?* > - increase the responsibility of the artists, make them aware of > the problem, for example by introducing preservation strategies > into funding applications. This however brings up the question what > is valued more: the quality of the work or the preservation > strategy. Sometimes works that weren't the best of their time > become well known because they make interesting case studies for > preservation, the term 'darwinistic archiving' was introduced (i.e. > survival of the best documented). > - institutions and museums, or even universities, have more > resources and know-how, they could take a coordinating role, so > that smaller organisations or individuals can join. To make it > beneficiary for both sides a 'funding for research' approach was > suggested. (i.e. establishing an institution that is related and > attached to a research field; the institution would help with > preservation and in exchange would get access to, for example, > software artworks as their research materials - it was said that > the Daniel Langlois Foundation had participated in these kind of > projects, maybe someone could elaborate?!) > - network community and users: the web is made by individuals > instead of organisations. Mobilise them and make them aware of > their self-sustainability (see for example the case of Turbulence > and Rhizome). > > * > What to keep - DOCUMENT OR PRESERVE? Although there were no ready > answers many SUGGESTIONS were made, it would be interesting to hear > your comments:* > - you can't save everything, focus on the most informative parts > that convey the main idea of the work. (who decides, selects?) > - for born digital works it can be important to preserve/ > document the process > - instead of saving the original code it could be better to make > a diagram that represents al the possible states and scenarios of > the work. > - videotape the work: desktop video and context video > - write books, articles and reviews in magazine or newspapers: > in order to make it visible "the online" needs to become physical; > - organise exhibitions as they will bring out the urgency and > problems of preservation: more attention to presentation and exposure; > - could the strategy of 'scanning on demand' that is practiced > by some large archives also work for the preservation of born > digital content? > - by changing the terminology from 'digital preservation' to > 'permanent access' might give an incentive to the importance and > understanding of the work. > > The best quote of the day was 'jack the wrapper': put the software > in a box and describe / document the whole thing so that someone > else can clone it. > > *And finally, some questions and needs that came up:* > - What is the reaction of artists to existing documentation > strategies, for example, the VMQ? > - What has succeeded and what attempts have failed and why? Make > best/worst case practices where we can all learn from. > - How are other fields dealing with these issues, for example, > archeology, musicology, information science, dance and performance > art,... and what can we learn from them?