Dear Dianne, (Dear All), I agree with you but to be open to different models of mentoring and coaching it can be useful (depending on your preferred learning style) to explore 'established' models first before developing your own from synthesising aspects of what is known and from there moving to what is not yet known. If you think about David Kolbs' elegant learning model and Gardner's Frames of Mind you can see that we approach learning in different ways. Now for some people it seems 'the only way to learn' is to be open minded from the outset - good but that should not be taken to be everyone's preferred way of engaging in learning. One of the aspects of studying educational psychology towards writing my thesis in 2003 was a growing understanding of my multiplicity as a learner - I explore given models first then assimilate and reflect and then and only then I engage in creating "new" knowledge. Others start from creating knowledge and then see how it aligns with pre-existing models. If we return for a moment to Tadashi's questions for this e-seminar we see that there is ample opportunity for everyone to participate in exploring both mentoring and coaching, howsoever they wish/ as their learning styles enable them. Do you see that opportunity? having read Tadashi's handouts, how do you perceive mentoring and coaching assisting teachers' ongoing professional development around & within the practice of kounai-ken? Very much looking forward to hearing from you - I always value your replies as you know! Sarah PS Time for settling down to sleep here so apologies, Dianne, if it takes us a while to reply Sarah Fletcher Consultant Research Mentor http://www.TeacherResearch.net Convenor for BERA Mentoring and Coaching SIG Details at http://www.bera.ac.uk --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Dianne Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Dianne Allen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: How mentoring and coaching might improve teachers' CPD in Japanese schools To: [log in to unmask] Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 10:23 PM Sarah, and others, my inclination about models for mentoring, for coaching, for teaching, for managing, for any situation in which a professional(person) is involved with dealing with people is 'be as open as possible to multiple models', and for dealing with crunch points that don't respond to your most regualr model ... And the model for this flexibility in model use to deal with problems? (if this is not tautology or an oxymoron/ contradiction in terms) ... is something like the four (or more step) process of problem solving: ie beware the symptom-treatment trap; and work on the many options between symptom and diagnosis; test diagnosis if at all possible, and work ont he many options between diagnosis and choice of treatment, and by careful observation/ questioning for data collection to inform the analysis that leads to a diagnosis, and by careful review of options of treatment so the one chosen is most relevant to this case, as a special case. eg see http://www.gdrc.org/decision/problem-solve.html for six steps, and http://managementhelp.org/prsn_prd/prb_bsc.htm ; http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newCT_10.htm; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Problem_Solving_Process for others) and yes they look like action research, and Kounai-ken has some of these phases so far as I can see ... Dianne Allen Kiama ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Fletcher To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:30 AM Subject: Re: How mentoring and coaching might improve teachers' CPD in Japanese schools Dear Tadashi, (Dear All) Thank you so much for responding to my question in such a thought-provoking way. I realised that business coaches see mentoring as a sub-set of mentoring when I ran a programme for the LifeLong Learning Division at the University of Bath in Swindon. I have also noticed this when I examine the MA dissertations from the Business School at Oxford Brookes University. Perhaps this is because (until relatively recently) business was more geared to outcomes and skills than the majority of schools perceived themselves as being. Now we have league tables. which haven't always existed (!), schools have become more outcome focused and as a result have adopted skills coaching and relegated mentoring to supporting students who have learning difficulties and initial teacher training and induction. When I trained to become a school-based mentor under the Licensed Teacher Scheme in Bedfordshire, my mentor was Mike Berrill - he wrote a brilliant article entitled ITE at the Crossroads, which was published in the Cambridge Journal of Education (I'll find you the reference and circulate it). Mike used Eric Berne's concept of transactional analysis to help us understand (as novice mentors) that we need to operate in all 3 dimensions to engage effectively with mentees; as adult, as parent and as child. There is no one superior state - we need to be able to develop ways to relate across all three as the parent takes care of others, the adult stands back and can analyse the big picture and the child needs to play. (I'd be lost without the child bit as I experiment with using the KEEP toolkit templates for teacher researchers...) Well rounded professionals can operate in each of Berne's modes. Now I see Transactional Analysis is one of the major models in the practice of coaching... I thoroughly recommend this site: http://www.businessballs.com/transactionalanalysis.htm the group at Swindon told me about it. (There are links to all sorts of coaching resources). I wonder if it might be a useful model to consider for supporting teachers in kounai ken or if it works better in some cultures than others? (I will be interested to hear others views too) Warmest regards, Sarah Sarah Fletcher Consultant Research Mentor http://www.TeacherResearch.net Convenor for BERA Mentoring and Coaching SIG Details at http://www.bera.ac.uk --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Tadashi ASADA <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Tadashi ASADA <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: How mentoring and coaching might improve teachers' CPD in Japanese schools To: [log in to unmask] Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 2:04 PM Dear Sarah, >I'd like to know more about how you see mentoring and coaching >complementing one another as a means to facilitating teachers' learning. Do >you think the skills involved in mentoring and coaching are the same or >distinct? Thank you so much. Your question is difficult. I think the notion of mentaring involes/contains that of coaching. Generally, coaching focuses on the physical aspect, for example, coaching in sports domain. In my paper coaching focuses on the teaching skills, ie.questioning, how to writeing on the blackboard and so on. However, I think the skills also means the cognitive skills, how to think, and coaching in teacher education shoud deal with them. If so, coaching should not set limits to the physical aspect. On the other hand, the notion of mentoring is wide, and focuses on the human development through the professional development. I think the relationship between mentoring and coaching is similar to that between education and training. Education and training have the same terminal goal, but the learnig process is different. Training process is the most effective route to the goal, so at least the trainer has the check points to attain to the goal and the criteria of evaluation. In education the leaner tries and fails many times and finally attains to the goal. In this process the educator support and sometimes instruct the learner and the learner is brought out his potential by the educator's support. I think training is necessary in educational process, but only training cannnot serve the learner's development. My answer to you question is that the skills involved in mentoring and coaching are in part the same because mentoring involves coaching. So I think we need to reframe the skills in coaching from the view of mentoring. Warmest regards, Tadashi