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Hi, Sorry for the confusion about implying Silverlight was IE-only. On a lighter note I see there is Linux version of Silverlight, called Moonlight, http://mono-project.com/Moonlight I have installed, the current preview version, on a relatively clean version of Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit. When I go to one of the zoom pages on the site I am currently getting a blank page with a "Loading" image in the middle. If I do manage to get it working I will email again. Joe Jon Pratty wrote: > Just to clarify, following Joe's email > > Silverlight *isn't* an IE-only tool - it works fine with Firefox. > > This is a non-Microsoft office/house/kitchen - even the cats are using > Chrome on their PDA's. I'm on Firefox 3.0.11 and the Brum zoomy pics I can > see are silky and scalable. > > JP > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of > Joseph Padfield > Sent: 26 June 2009 12:42 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's Pre-Rapahelite > website > > > Hi, > > I have had a brief look at the site and it looks very good, but I have > not had a chance to examine it further. > > I just wanted to post a comment about the silverlight zooming issue. I > have seen it working on a windows machine and it looks good, but lack of > support for other browsers is a shame. > > For web technology people, (not general users) Firefox use is about 47% > (and climbing) > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > > Wikipedia (much more general user: has lower Firefox use ~22.51%, but > still very significant (IE only 65.5%) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers > > Would it be possible to have an alternative zooming system presented for > non Internet Explorer browsers ? > > Also, just for fun, I thought I would mention that there is (and there > are probably several others :-) a cross platform, open source, > alternative zooming system , called IIPImage, > http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/ > > I am currently using it for several research projects. One example > javascript viewer, (though it is not yet using the newest version of the > viewer, so not as smooth), can be found: > http://cima.ng-london.org.uk/collection This is a simple proof of > concept page but it works as a good example. > > Joe > > > Cristiano Bianchi | Keepthinking wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> my 8-year old Alfa Romeo takes me everywhere I like (and quite >> comfortably at that), but if I wanted to compete at Silverstone I'd >> need a different car. And I know it. >> >> I agree that Silverlight is an odd choice - for a simple zoom facility >> - but hey, they may have something else in store, for which Flash is >> not appropriate. We do not know. Yet. They have made a decision and >> will know its pros and cons. >> >> What we do know is that on an average site the number of people coming >> with Ubuntu (or any other Linux) are, say, 0.0001% of the total. They >> made a conscious decision of using a niche OS - which has limited >> multimedia capabilities and a very restricted choice of plugins. So >> the idea is that the remaining 99.9999% of user should never try >> something else because of the choice of a very small group? >> >> Moreover, the site is 99.9% accessible to everyone - if you want the >> extra funky bits you have to download something extra. And at doing >> that - the continuous zoom - I have seen no better tool than >> Silverlight - it's smooth, fast and efficient. I have seen no >> comparable Flash example at doing the same. Zoomify or Aleo don't come >> even remotely close. I would like to be corrected as we are looking >> for an alternative :-) >> >> Best, Cristiano >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 Jun 2009, at 11:18, Michael Comiskey wrote: >> >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I just tried the preraphaelites.org website with an Asus Eee 900 with >>> eeebuntu 3.0 (a tweak of Ubuntu Linux 9.04) using Firefox 3.0.11. >>> >>> It works just the same as Firefox on Windows XP SP3 and Firefox 3.0 >>> until one tries to use the zooming viewer. >>> >>> The viewer page does not work , but instead presents a "Get Microsoft >>> Silverlight" button, which upon being selected, sends one to the >>> Microsoft Silverlight website. >>> >>> This then gives a "Microsoft Silverlight may not be supported on your >>> computer's hardware or operating system" message, which is nice. >>> >>> Thus I would give the site full marks for presenting what is a >>> marvellous collection, but take a bit off for not using a cross platform >>> technology for the zooming viewer. >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>>> Behalf Of Jenny Walklate >>>> Sent: 26 June 2009 09:25 >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's >>>> Pre-Rapahelite website >>>> >>>> Yes, I wondered about silverlight too - is there anything >>>> with Linux/ Firefox compatibility? >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> **************************************************************** >>>> For mcg information visit the mcg website at >>>> http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk. >>>> To manage your subscription to this email list visit >>>> http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk/email.shtml >>>> **************************************************************** >>>> >>>> >>> ************************************************************************ >>> >>> National Museums Northern Ireland comprises the Ulster Museum, Ulster >>> Folk and Transport Museum, Ulster American Folk Park, Armagh County >>> Museum and W5. >>> >>> The Ulster Museum is currently closed for major redevelopment. >>> Details of the museum's programme of outreach activities during >>> closure can be found at www.ulstermuseum.org.uk. >>> >>> All our other sites are open as normal. >>> >>> >>> Any views expressed by the sender of this message are not necessarily >>> those of the National Museums Northern Ireland. 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