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I've come in late on this grisly question: my Shorter Oxford says [abbr. by me] Guy [...] 1806 1. An effigy of Guy Fawkes [...] 2. A person of grotesque looks or dress; a fright 1836. 3. A man, fellow (US Slang) 1896. I've always preferred the second of these - as in "Grisly guys some of them turn out" 1836. mj Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. H.L.Mencken ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Prince To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: question (UK) All y'all bloody blokes, and not the one of ya knows it's a USAmerican stoopid term ["guy"]. The other two terms, chap and bloke, originate from England. Judy 2009/5/8 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> > Same here in Leicester. The place is swimming with 'blokes'. 'chap' isn't > ubiquitous, you hear of him now and gain, but as for 'guy', well, I haven't > seen him in ages. I wondered how he was doing: so he's found himself a spot > in the TLS then? > best > > dave > > 2009/5/8 Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> > > > "Bloke" is alive and well in Glasgow. > > > > > > At 09:49 PM 5/7/2009, you wrote: > > > >> when were "chap" and "bloke" replaced by the ubiquitous and classless > >> "guy"? > >> > >> question asked by reviewer in the current TLS online > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > >> > > > > > -- > David Bircumshaw > "Nothing can be done in the face > of ordinary unhappiness" - PP > Website and A Chide's Alphabet > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk >