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Hello Please could I be added to the circulation list? Many thanks, Lesley Robinson e: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 11:27:48 +0100 Subject: FW: Re: DIUS - ESOL policy document: the long awaited report of the ESOL and community cohesion report Haven't read the report either but what this guy says is interesting. Joining this forum is a fab way to stay on top of changes and reseach in ESOl and linguistics. Cheers From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Haggard Sent: 08 May 2009 09:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: DIUS - ESOL policy document: the long awaited report of the ESOL and community cohesion report Thanks Melanie I am struck that the “new approach” policy report makes not one single reference to the practices and people involved in ESOL teaching. It treats ESOL as a process industry with a delivery structure that you tweak to optimize it, like insurance claims processing for example. There seems to be no acknowledgement that giving people language skills is a matter of contact, time, inspiration and good materials used well in good environments. Such a restricted approach may well be “new” but can it be effective ? Also, something troubles me in the overarching assumption that “need” for language learning is a variable function of a deprivation index. Yes it is right to argue that the most excluded should be offered most attention. But No, it surely is wrong to sign up to any political economy with sliding scales of access to a fundamental entitlement like social participation through communication. Those access criteria are going to be set by political processes which may be (already are ?) venal, arbitrary, penny-pinching or hostage to interest-groups. I haven’t completely worked out what the problem is in this approach, but instinctively I’d say, “slippery”. I can’t think of any other kinds of basic education that are meted out on a socially-indexed “need” scale. Would DIUS publish proposals restricting English lessons at KS 2 to only some of our children – and expect praise for setting enlightened access criteria around exclusion ? So what is it about ESOL speakers that makes them suitable for this rationing of opportunity ? Please reassure me that it’s nothing to do with their foreign origins. Stephen Haggard Consultant, New Media Mentorn Media / Tinopolis Group Elsinore House 77 Fulham Palace Road London W6 8JA 020 7258 6718- direct 020 7258 6700 - switchboard 020 7258 6888 - fax 07956 370294 - mobile [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] www.mentorn.tv www.tinopolis.com From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cooke, Melanie Sent: 07 May 2009 22:26 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: DIUS - ESOL policy document: the long awaited report of the ESOL and community cohesion report The report of the DIUS consultation on ESOL and community cohesion that many of us contributed to has finally come out. I haven't had time to read it yet - interested to know what people make of it... The consultation report can be found here: http://www.dius.gov.uk/~/media/publications/E/esol_consultation_report And this seems to be a short version http://www.dius.gov.uk/~/media/publications/E/esol_new_approach Best wishes Melanie ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________*********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. 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