Dominic, I must admit to playing devil's advocate a little here as I have actually been involved in some of the IG aspects of the database and I was also very involved in MIAP (The Unique Learner Number). However, I am still uneasy because throughout my admittedly limited involvement no one could ever actually provide assurance that the scope of the database would not expand and how fair processing would be addressed if this happened. As with any government project like this, the issue is not really with those that do the work to bring in these things, it's with the people that have overall responsibility and also my renewed fear of politicians. I considering my requests for information a "test". Simon Howarth. -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dominic Newton Sent: 20 May 2009 16:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Given the recent e-mail about contact point = read on I think the problem here is that there's a misapprehension that ContactPoint will hold vast amounts of detailed data about individuals. It won't. All it will old is contact details (which are already available to most of the staff involved, albeit that they are more likely to be accurate or at least show up discrepancies) for children and parents, and details of the professionals involved - this is main reason behind the system. It will not hold case data, beyond the name of the service (and in some cases not even that - several national partners are withholding that data as it could be defined as sensitive personal data). Not that i'm an apologist for the database state at all, but i do think that there's a great deal of misunderstanding about the purpose of ContactPoint. There does of course need to be adequate security, which is difficult considering the numbers of users involved, and the dispersed responsibility for this (with each agency/authority responsible for their own security) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^