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Well one thing Randolph's doing is Rattling the Bars, out from Oystercatcher Press, which I collected from the printers today :-) Where to start: Peel Me a Fruitbat? Venus and Mars Bars? The Gifts of the Spirit in their Original Packing? It's best to start everywhere. Luv, Peter Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:51:06 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Language and Controversy To: [log in to unmask] I'm glad to see these things said. Bilinguality should be an answer, not a problem. And of course it isn't always the majority language zone which does the excluding. See Randolph Healy's poem "Daylight Saving Sex" (in Green 532) -- grace not the ní tír gan teanga (no language no nation) drill grace I wonder what Randolph's up to these days. Randoph! Are you there? what are you up to these days? When's the next book? Peter On 15 May 2009, at 11:11, ian davidson wrote: One of the reasons I got really excited about finding out and reading more experimental writing, and why the work of a number of modernist poets and the Language poetry project made immediate sense to me, was because it helped me to work with my experience of growing up in a place with two official languages in an unequal relationship. Still does, although poetic practices may be different. This is not to give primacy to one language over another (or others). The language practice of people, outside of the confines of legalistic and state practices and official literatures, was in neither language, but always different combinations of the two. Relationships between languages, people and geography (or places) are never direct, but always constructed out of a negotiation that subverts and critiques a nationalist rhetoric and the kind of public language it is made up of. The more languages the better in my view. Ian " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. " Download Now _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/