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Come on Hal, you know that I know that - anyways, you're poems are so over-coded, they have to be transmiting a secret message. What do you think everyone thinks your doing here? And then their's that Fred Pollack - even his name is suspicius (I've got a freind called Pollak here and he's a psichoanalist, so you can work that one out for yourself!) and his poems are, whew, like unreal. Preface, agendas, big ideas, whatever. You're not fooling us, guys. There are a couple of them on every list. Cant refute that, huh, buddy? Joe Snitch _______________________________________ But I am but a nameless sort of person(A broken Dandy lately on my travels) And take for rhyme, to hook my rambling verse on, The first that Walker's Lexicon unravels - George Gordon, Lord Byron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Halvard Johnson" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Dead ends > As for me, Jon, I've never felt/sensed that "implied preface" > in any poem, old or now. Maybe you're reading "something" > into them? > > Hal > > "Never underestimate the power of stupid > people in large groups." > --George Carlin > > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > [log in to unmask] > http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jon Corelis <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Though it may seem a long way from these language (I use the term in a >> broad sense) poets to the various political and mainstream academic >> schools, all three of these major current English language poetry >> categories have in common that they produce poems with the implicit >> preface, "Here is how you should write poetry." In other words, they >> are lectures which are of no use to anybody. I must cede that at >> least the language school's poems don't add the implicit afterword of >> current political poems -- "And if you criticize that, you are a >> clod," --- or of the academic ones -- "Can I have tenure now?" >> >> -- >> =============================================== >> >> Jon Corelis http://jcorelis.googlepages.com/joncorelis >> >> =============================================== >>