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Noticing Mark's mention of Wordsworth, I've but this week come to read the 1799, Two-part Prelude. I knew of the 1805 & 1850 texts, but the earliest, shortest, less pre-meditated version of all is breathtaking. best dave 2009/4/24 Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> > On the other hand, we bring to the work whatever we've experieneced (even > if we choose not to talk about it) and however that's changed us. If > anything, art that matters is the recording of changes large and small. And > not always for the good--think of late Wordsworth--though usually. > > Which is not the same as prescribing material want. > > Mark > > > At 10:46 AM 4/24/2009, you wrote: > >> This may be on a tangent from the possibility of being corrupted by a >> grant, but I found this comment by Marianne Faithful in response to >> that question: 'did suffering help you as an artist'? She says, 'I >> don't think it helped me. I can't tell for sure. It's possible , but >> mostly when I look back at that time I just see it as a waste. Drugs >> caused me to waste a lot of time and caused me a lot of unnecessary >> pain.' >> >> She goes on, 'I consider myself an artist and suffering has nothing to >> do with it.' >> >> To which I say, Yea, verily. >> >> Doug >> Douglas Barbour >> [log in to unmask] >> >> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ >> >> Latest books: >> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) >> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 >> Wednesdays' >> >> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html >> >> There's the wind and the rain >> And the mercy of the fallen >> Who say they have no claim to know what's right >> Dar Williams >> > -- David Bircumshaw "Nothing can be done in the face of ordinary unhappiness" - PP Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk