Sorry should have posted a link to the paper. You can download a Pdf of 'An Ecology for Design: From the Natural, through the Artificial, to the Un-Natural' from my wiki at http://vivekaturnbullhocking.wetpaint.com/page/An+Ecology+for+Design please add your feedback in the 'start new thread' box at the bottom of the page. You can also find my other papers and my fieldwork there if you are interested. Thanks Chris for those helpful tips... and yes I agree about Common Ground completely, though I do have to say (money aside) it was good to review others work and get others feedback although I know there are other (and probably better) ways of doing this. I did double check the Common Ground contract and it is fine to put my paper up on my website. Best wishes from the first snow of the season in the Snowy Mountains Australia v. -- Viveka Turnbull Hocking Tel...........02 6456 7439 Mobile.....0431 945 252 Mail.........PO Box 1066, Jindabyne NSW 2627