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On 19 Apr 2009, at 3:08 am, Swanson, Gunnar wrote: >> This shows up in intimate contact such as watch >> straps. > > Intimate contact with leather straps is common some places but it is > still considered somewhat exotic here in the American South. Gunnar, It's uncommon here in UK too (or at least it seems to be). The public thwak of leather on willow is much more common and satisfying. Anyway, I feel sure that this is a sub-thread that could find a more appropriate list with an entirely different set of subscribers.... David ......................................................................... David Durling FDRS PhD http://durling.tel .........................................................................