I wonder if I am missing something here. Littering is anti social and unacceptable. A council has a duty to keep its streets clean. If a person(s)are suspected of littering then it seems to me that the council are entitled to find out who and ask/tell them to stop it or else. The ensuing investigation is likely to be processing personal data. The justification for this processing I suggest could be conditions 3, 5 and 6 of Schedule 2. Bearing in mind they only need to satisfy one. If they complete their Privacy Impact Assessment and they have exhausted less intrusive means of finding out "who done it" then in the absence of any other investigative solution then why can't they maintain a surveillance on the areas in question? Once the relevant information is established the method of surveillance should cease. All this is within the DPA and I cant see how RIPA is involved. Now...am I missing something?? Chris Brogan MA LLM Managing Director Security International Ltd 130 St Johns Road, Isleworth, Middlesex TW7 6PL, UK Tel: +44 20 8847 2111 Fax: +44 20 8847 1852 Registered in England & Wales No. 1322074 Registered Office: 11 Loveday Road, London W13 9JT www.securitysi.com -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Hasan Sent: 17 April 2009 14:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Council RIPA powers Councils in England and Wales face new restrictions on the use of surveillance powers for minor offences such as dog fouling and littering. The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (Ripa) allows public authorities to intercept phone and e-mail data and use CCTV to spy on suspected criminals. But Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has launched a review after fears it was being used for "trivial" offences. The Tories and Lib Dems say Ripa has become a "snooper's charter". But the government has resisted opposition calls for the use of the powers to be authorised by magistrates, arguing that the decision to use them should be left with councils and police. Full story below: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8003123.stm I will be looking at these proposals in my RIPA and covert surveillance workshop next week in London: http://www.actnow.org.uk/courses/240 Regards Ibrahim Hasan Solicitor and Trainer www.actnow.org.uk ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2068 - Release Date: 04/19/09 20:04:00 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^