All except step 6 chris. As if this turns out to be the case I'll most likely be residing at Her Majesty's leisure for failure to comply! Having done a lot of work in government organizations I must say that generally the aims of the people who come up with these ideas is very laudable, but they seem to be so easily seduced by the "consultants" (I know, I am one, but I have resisted going completely over to the dark side) suggestions and "solutions", that there seems to be failure to recognize the impact that some of these ideas have on the public and society as a whole. ID cards will not stop terrorism, some biometrics MAY help detect some crime faster, but when it all boils down, we are supposed to be living in a civilized democratic society although we are only ever a few steps away from totalitarianism and then the big databases will be used for things we haven't even imagined yet. Sorry to be moribund. Simon Howarth. From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of chris pounder Sent: 28 April 2009 19:28 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Mr Blunkett and ID Cards I think I have got Mr Blunkett's idea. Tell me if I am wrong Step 1: get rid of ID Cards. Step 2: issue mandatory passports with Biometrics the form of a Card with chip carrying photo. Step 3: Grow a database of biometrics (e.g. fingerprints, photos) linked to name and address Step 4: Get people to carry passports internally in the UK (so that they can establish their ID when going to a GP or open a bank account) Step 5: Tell the world that this Card that isn't an ID Card? Step 6: Wait for men in white coats.... Cheers C _____ _____ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html Selected commands (the command has been filled in below in the body of the email if you are receiving emails in HTML format): * Leaving this list: send leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]&BODY=LEAVE%20data-protection> * Suspending emails from all JISCMail lists: send SET * NOMAIL to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]&BODY=SET%20*%20NOMAIL> * To receive emails from this list in text format: send SET data-protection NOHTML to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]&BODY=SET%20data-protection%20NOHTML> * To receive emails from this list in HTML format: send SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]&BODY=SET%20data-protection%20HTML> All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm and are sent in the body of an otherwise blank email to [log in to unmask] Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (Please send all commands to [log in to unmask] not the list or the moderators, and all requests for technical help to [log in to unmask], the general office helpline) _____ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^