I think I have got Mr Blunkett's idea. Tell me if I am wrong Step 1: get rid of ID Cards. Step 2: issue mandatory passports with Biometrics the form of a Card with chip carrying photo. Step 3: Grow a database of biometrics (e.g. fingerprints, photos) linked to name and address Step 4: Get people to carry passports internally in the UK (so that they can establish their ID when going to a GP or open a bank account) Step 5: Tell the world that this Card that isn't an ID Card? Step 6: Wait for men in white coats.... Cheers C _____ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^