In message <[log in to unmask]>,
at 09:42:00 on Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Chris Brogan
<[log in to unmask]> writes
>It is proportionate because as soon as the objective is achieved the
>surveillance will cease.
No - "proportionate" is not the same as "end justifies the means".
>
>My question is why use RIPA? Even if the measures proposed by the Home
>Secretary with regard to the use of RIPA are introduced surely a public
>authority could still put person(s) under surveillance relying on DPA?
RIPA isn't a "power" to be "used". It's a "framework for oversight"
which *must* be deployed by public authorities (well, that's what the
law currently says).
>Just as an aside. Fly tipping is often highly organised and involves
>gangs. That falls within the definityion of organised crime. These
>people are making money from their illegal activity and I assume some
>of that money finds its way into a bank account. That is money
>laundering.
No, money laundering is not the same as "proceeds of crime". It involves
going one stage further to disguise the proceeds.
>Both these offences are considered to be serious crimes (Serious Crimes
>Act 2007..from memory) which is one of the reasons that RIPA was
>introduced.
RIPA was 2000. And a result of ensuring compliance with the Human Rights
Act.
--
Roland Perry
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner
[log in to unmask]
Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs
To receive these emails in HTML format send the command:
SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask]
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
