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I wish you were right about this Peter, I really do. I just don't think it happens though. There are degrees of it, but that's all - I just don't see how it is possible to have an issue free reading by someone 'involved', however hard they try. Tim On 11 Apr 2009, at 12:46, Peter Riley wrote: > I honestly don't see why not. You pick up a book, open it, face a > page with a poem on, say the first of Heaney's Glanmore Sonnets, and > you read the first line > > "Vowels ploughed into other: opened ground." > > There's a proposition there, about language and the world, and a > sighting. > > You may disagree with it. > > But what does it matter who wrote it? > > Pr > > > > > On 11 Apr 2009, at 11:03, Tim Allen wrote: > > I honestly don't see a way out of this.