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Sorry, I didn't mean INRAP per se but rather the Archeozoo website. Apologies for the confusion. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Orton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Anatomical distribution Well, I have domestic cattle ready to go (after a little tidying-up), but for other species I'd been trying stuff out on the cattle skeleton then using Illustrator to produce final figures on the appropriate template. It sounds from Andres' post like various other species are already available. I'm snowed under right now but since there seems to be interest I'll get cracking on finalising the cattle and digitising some other species as soon as I can. Internet Archaeology have expressed preliminary interest but I need to write a formal proposal, not to mention investigating the copyright situation with the .ai files they're based on (thoughts/suggestions on this would be very welcome - the INRAP people never replied to an initial query about this that I sent via their website just over a year ago). I'd like to get at least pig, sheep and/or goat, and a species of deer (probably Cervus elaphus) ready for an initial batch, and the beauty of Int Arch is that I think follow-up posts should be possible with more shapefiles that anyone gets round to making. In the meantime, anyone who would like the cattle template can send me their email and I'll post it out once I've tidied it up a bit - probably in a few weeks. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burke Ariane" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Anatomical distribution I second that! A few years ago someone made line-drawing templates of animal skeletons available on BoneCommons that proved very popular. If anybody out there has a shapefile for mammalian skeletons I`m sure it will be even more so... Can anyone step up to the plate? Prof. Ariane Burke, Département d'anthropologie, Université de Montréal, B.P. 6128, Succursale Centre-Ville, Montréal, QC, Canada, H3C 3T7 Tél. +1 514-343-6574 Fax. +1 514-343-2494 -----Message d'origine----- De : Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de Jessica Grimm Envoyé : 25 mars 2009 11:49 À : [log in to unmask] Objet : Re: [ZOOARCH] Anatomical distribution Hi David, I would be very interested in these templates, as most units and university based people probably are. These institutions usually have GIS licences. Jessica Grimm -----Original Message----- From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Orton Sent: 25 March 2009 15:42 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Anatomical distribution I'm in the process of converting some skeletal templates into ArcGIS format so that you can link an Excel or dbase table full of faunal data straight in. The skeleton then becomes analogous to a map or site plan and you can use the display options within ArcGIS to display whichever field you want (be it NISP, MNE, burning rate, whatever) in a variety of ways (shading, different colours, labels, even superimposed graphs if you like). This is basically the same as doing it in Illustrator as Jim suggests, except that you can throw up and compare different categories of data or produce multiple figures for different sites, contexts etc. much, much more quickly. In my PhD research I noticed some taphonomic patterns this way that I'd never have had time to try out had I been colouring elements manually I'm thinking of bundling the files up and posting them on the internet somewhere - possibly Internet Archaeology - with instructions and examples. This is probably the closest you'll get right now to customised software (although I hope to be corrected on this), but obviously it's not ideal because unless you're affiliated to an institution which has a license for the GIS software - or are sufficiently loaded to get your own - you won't be able to use the template files. I'd be grateful if zooarchers could tell me whether: (a) they think this is worth doing, and (b) anyone has already done it. Thanks, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Morris" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Anatomical distribution > Hi Vaidotas > > I don't know of any software that would do it all for you. > The best way I have found is to do your calculations in excel and then use > illustrator or another other graphic software to manually colour in a > skeleton. > > Excellent digitized skeletons are available from the below site in both > Adobe Illustrator and PNG format. > > http://www.archeozoo.org/en-rubrique108.html > > Hope that helps > > Jim > http://www.animalbones.org/Profilingcommercialzooarchaeology.html > > Vaidotas wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> Are there any particular software available for calculating anatomical >> distribution of bones and representing the results on a graphical >> skeleton template? 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