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Dear All,

Taking Chris's reading on board, I'd have to reverse myself and agree with
Joe. Perhaps I read it the wrong way.

So, I'll quote Chris's post, below, and add a cheerful me-too.

Warm wishes,

Ken


On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:11:40 +0000, Chris Rust <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I think Joe's comment is relevant, if oblique to the thread. On the one
>had, as Ken says, it's foolish to imagine that "we" can somehow pick out
>exceptional people and give them the freedom to plan our futures. On the
>other hand, as Joe's post indicates, neither we nor these possible gurus
>can really predict what will be significant in the future, what will
>work well and enhance life and what will be the new asbestos (actually I
>think radio frequency  emissions might turn out to be the new asbestos
>but you probably think I'm a crank - the point is we will not know until
>it doesn't happen)
>
>Rob's concept of contemporary design gurus does not do much for me.
>James Dyson is an achiever and very talented (for those who have heard
>of him) but he's also the last of the old-time inventors, pumping up the
>last vestiges of the 1960s consumer boom and his products seem to wear
>out as quickly as everybody else's. He is a survivor hanging on to the
>tail end of a Kondratiev cycle. Past success is no indication of future
>profits.
>
>More pointedly, did anybody, including Tim Berners-Lee, have any idea of
>the implications of the internet? T B-L might have had a clue, as you
>can see from his original title for the project "Enquire Within Upon
>Everything" (originally the title of a wonderful Victorian self-help
>manual, I have a copy and it is an object lesson in not taking seriously
>the ephemeral concerns of the day). However I don't suppose we would
>have been able to pick out his idea from all the other ones going round
>at the time. As the old adage goes, "I know that only 10% of my
>advertising budget is effective, I just don't know which 10%."
>
>So I'm with Joe, or what I read into his post. What we need is more
>intelligent communities, more empowered to shape their futures, and able
>to draw on a good supply of well-trained, well informed and skilful
>people. Rob's approach sounds more like a prescription for a world run
>by Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe.
>
>Hence my concern with how our students can best learn to become
>thoughtful and skilful (and perhaps communally-minded), and my interest
>in whether there are ways to foster appropriate passion for
>professionalism, craftsmanship and inquiry. If a few of those students
>become exceptional achievers that's a bonus but it's not the point.
>
>Best wishes from Sheffield, built on the last Kondratiev cycle but two*,
>don't know if we'll survive into the next one
>Chris
>
>*1840-1895, Global Availability of Resources - Steam, Coal Railways; but
>Sheffield's roots go much further back into pre-industrial metalworking.
>
>...............................................................o^o
>Professor Chris Rust FDRS
>Head of Art and Design Research Centre
>Sheffield Hallam University, S1 2NU, UK
>+44 114 225 6772
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>www.chrisrust.net
>
>Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
>future of the human race. - H. G. Wells