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So where does working within your scope of practice come into all this? Surely (although the harm would not be seen so soon) it would be like one of use taking a job running an ITU? Something about which we may have a rough idea of what is involved but in which we have no real knowledge or skill base? 2009/3/8 [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Interesting point. I am not sure if it is just about existing > qualifications – but that at least is a start. I was at the AOHNP Ruth > Alston memorial lecture in Birmingham week before last. After the lecture > one of the attendees raised an interesting issue that the HSE have > expressed concern about whether all SCPHN qualifications provide adequate > preparation for OH practice. > > The outcomes for SCPHN programmes are very broad. I can understand the > concerns of the HSE. I recognise it is impossible to develop an OHN degree > which is absolutely perfect, however, unless there is an NMC appointed OHN > expert on the validating panel it would be easy to gain validation for a > course which is strong on general public health but very weak on the > specifics of OH. > > Sadly, I am lead to believe that there are at least two OH pathways > through an SCPHN degree which were validated by the NMC despite not even > having an OH qualified person employed by the university which developed > them. I am unsure who wrote the OH component of those programmes but if it > was an HV or SN I would question how can those practitioners have even an > inkling of what package of knowledge and skills are required to be a > competent OHN. I would not even start to develop an HV course without expert > HV input and would expect that pathway to be lead by an experienced HV. > > > Anne > > > > On 8/3/09 14:15, "Frank Oakes" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I came across a case last year where the HSE inspected some motor body > shops in the NE and they audited the OH providers quals and as she had none > she was summarily dismissed by the local traders and I believe given a stern > talking to by the HSE. It worries me that people are willing to put what > qualifications thay have at risk. It was following this that I was made > aware that they were auditiing many OH providers as they had grave concerns > from large providers to small. > > Frank > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net<http://ohjobs.drmaze.net/> > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net<http://ohjobs.drmaze.net/> > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk