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This is helpful and useful advice but it is still venepuncture not giving vaccinations. Anne On 3/3/09 19:07, "Suzanne Vaughan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi, whilst using gloves for venepuncture, but not for vaccines thought I¹d > search for RCN advice. > > In 2005, for their competencies : ³An education and training competency > framework for capillary blood sampling and venepuncture in children and young > adults² their competency requires the person to ³demonstrate the correct > procedures for minimising infection, including hand washing, use of gloves, > apron and aseptic technique². This is what our host Trust has advised too, but > at present discussions are being held re the unique environment of OH, not > patients, but well clients and risks of infections hopefully should be lower > than in a ward environment. > > Interesting debate > Suzanne > > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of p cranney > Sent: 03 March 2009 17:44 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] use of gloves when vaccinating? > > > I agree! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Haffner-Loach Neil G - Senior OH Nurse Practitioner / Ops Manager >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:36 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] use of gloves when vaccinating? >> >> >> Hiya Glenn, >> >> How does the glove remove 80% (ish) of blood from the needle bore? >> >> The needles we use are hollow bore and most of the blood is removed from the >> outside of the needle when it is removed from the skin. >> >> Hollow bore needles carry the highest amount of risk when transmitting BBV¹s >> >> The blood inside the hollow bore cannot be removed from the inside of the >> needle by a glove or any other form of PPE. >> >> It is therefore useless to wear gloves other than as a physical barrier >> between you and the patient. >> >> Therefore in my honest opinion GLOVES ARE USELESS in protecting the wearer >> from the risks of transmitting BBV¹s from a needle. >> >> However, I wear gloves for dressings, spillages and other such instances when >> I need a physical barrier. >> >> Nuff said >> >> Bless ya >> >> Neil Haffner-Loach >> Senior Nurse OH Service Leicester >> MATRON - LOL >> >> >> >> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >> Of Glenn Raybone >> Sent: 02 March 2009 18:32 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] use of gloves when vaccinating? >> >> >> Neil, Matron, my buddy! >> >> >> >> The use of a glove, was I thought, to remove 80% (ish) of blood in the needle >> bore. >> >> >> >> We too are bare below the elbow, and wash hands before and after each patient >> with soap and water, but aprons?? 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